Drivetrain Cosworth Head, DFIC Installed!
Cosworth Head, DFIC Installed!
Also an M7-OCC and 180 degree thermostat. All I can say is WOW!
I went up my 9% grade at 55mph in 6th gear. The outside temp was 95 and the elevation was 3000'. I could hold my speed and maybe gain a little, which I have never been able to do before. The water and oil temps were a lot lower, too.
My grin just keeps getting bigger.







My grin just keeps getting bigger.







nice setup!
i was at mini madness the other day and got a good look at a cosworth head. I was surprised that they were not ported that much you could see how far they ported it, and it doesn't have bigger valves. george then showed me another ported head that was much better then the cosworth, cleaner and actually got into the head and widened it out, it also had bigger valves. I'm sure that there is a gain with the cosworth head but seems like it doesn't deserve the cosworth name!
i was at mini madness the other day and got a good look at a cosworth head. I was surprised that they were not ported that much you could see how far they ported it, and it doesn't have bigger valves. george then showed me another ported head that was much better then the cosworth, cleaner and actually got into the head and widened it out, it also had bigger valves. I'm sure that there is a gain with the cosworth head but seems like it doesn't deserve the cosworth name!
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Originally Posted by willymcd
nice setup!
i was at mini madness the other day and got a good look at a cosworth head. I was surprised that they were not ported that much you could see how far they ported it, and it doesn't have bigger valves. george then showed me another ported head that was much better then the cosworth, cleaner and actually got into the head and widened it out, it also had bigger valves. I'm sure that there is a gain with the cosworth head but seems like it doesn't deserve the cosworth name!
i was at mini madness the other day and got a good look at a cosworth head. I was surprised that they were not ported that much you could see how far they ported it, and it doesn't have bigger valves. george then showed me another ported head that was much better then the cosworth, cleaner and actually got into the head and widened it out, it also had bigger valves. I'm sure that there is a gain with the cosworth head but seems like it doesn't deserve the cosworth name!
Does George sell the Cosworth head at a discount because it's not as good as the others? ? .... Oh, ..... that's right, ... George doesn't sell the Cosworth head, ... only M7 does. :impatient
I guess my long winded point is that such a post, one in which your claim "...it doesn't deserve the cosworth name!" should at least be backed up with some research and not just from a statement made by someone who can't sell you the head in the first place. I'm wondering how many Cosworth heads you have seen in your life. A bunch I would imagine for such a bold statement to be made.
Originally Posted by onasled
Hmmmm, interesting. Just curious though..., what is you personal background on this stuff? When you tested the heads did you really find that a larger valved and ultra board out and polished intake and exhaust ports were better?
Does George sell the Cosworth head at a discount because it's not as good as the others? ? .... Oh, ..... that's right, ... George doesn't sell the Cosworth head, ... only M7 does. :impatient
I guess my long winded point is that such a post, one in which your claim "...it doesn't deserve the cosworth name!" should at least be backed up with some research and not just from a statement made by someone who can't sell you the head in the first place. I'm wondering how many Cosworth heads you have seen in your life. A bunch I would imagine for such a bold statement to be made.
Does George sell the Cosworth head at a discount because it's not as good as the others? ? .... Oh, ..... that's right, ... George doesn't sell the Cosworth head, ... only M7 does. :impatient
I guess my long winded point is that such a post, one in which your claim "...it doesn't deserve the cosworth name!" should at least be backed up with some research and not just from a statement made by someone who can't sell you the head in the first place. I'm wondering how many Cosworth heads you have seen in your life. A bunch I would imagine for such a bold statement to be made.
BTW, Dave at DDM, who develops Miata parts and is now turning his attention to the MIni maintains that the Miata engine has been much more scutinized, poured over and there is much more is known about how to get more power from it....what works and what doesn't, than in our Mini engines.... makes sense ... it has been around a lot longer
I love when people slam others on a forum for their upgrades or try to disqualify them in some way instead of saying congrats!
At any rate both peices look sharp under there, I would love to have either of those to compliment what I already have.
At any rate both peices look sharp under there, I would love to have either of those to compliment what I already have.
Originally Posted by TampaMCS
I love when people slam others on a forum for their upgrades or try to disqualify them in some way instead of saying congrats!
At any rate both peices look sharp under there, I would love to have either of those to compliment what I already have.
At any rate both peices look sharp under there, I would love to have either of those to compliment what I already have.
Originally Posted by Rich B.
Has anyone else noticed that the M7 logo on the ic is crooked? Don't get me wrong, your engine package is a beautiful thing to behold, but that tilted logo would drive me nuts. Sorry to be so picky.
Originally Posted by onasled
Yes, I saw it and I agree. I would have had that off in a second and tried again, or just gone without rather then have it crooked....


I had to get the car back together in time to drive 8 hours for a network emergency. I'm sure glad I got the car working the first time.I agree with Spiderx and Onasled. Just making the ports bigger and putting bigger valves in a head doesn't necessarily make the most power for the application. Velocity of the air through the system is also very important. Maybe if I was going to race my MINI and stay above 5000 rpm all the time
I would want bigger valves, but I don't want to lose low end torque and and all around drivablity. And I haven't lost that with the Cosworth head which also gave me a significant increase in power where I needed it.
So let the bashers bore and enlarge because I will be enjoying a head that was actually engineered by a company that knows what it's doing.Steve
Oh, and thanks for the comments, nice and otherwise. It's hard to improve things without them. Working in a vacuum seldom produces the best results.
I'll be in Monterey about noon if anybody want's to see it in person.
Steve
I'll be in Monterey about noon if anybody want's to see it in person.Steve
Steve, have a great time! Sorry I can't meet ya...
Cosworth will do bigger valves, upon request, most notably for the racers who will live at higher RPM levels, as mentioned earlier. For the vast majority of us, it would just not make sense. As Bob alludes, with the M62, that might change things though. Once Peter can get a finished 62 kit, it will be neat to see what head experimentation might reveal.
Madness was/is actually at the Monterey Historics, not as a paying vendor though. They brought a yellow MCS, with lambo doors, and camped in the MINI corral soliciting... It was a little strange.
Cosworth will do bigger valves, upon request, most notably for the racers who will live at higher RPM levels, as mentioned earlier. For the vast majority of us, it would just not make sense. As Bob alludes, with the M62, that might change things though. Once Peter can get a finished 62 kit, it will be neat to see what head experimentation might reveal.
Madness was/is actually at the Monterey Historics, not as a paying vendor though. They brought a yellow MCS, with lambo doors, and camped in the MINI corral soliciting... It was a little strange.
Originally Posted by TonyB
Steve, have a great time! Sorry I can't meet ya...
Cosworth will do bigger valves, upon request, most notably for the racers who will live at higher RPM levels, as mentioned earlier......
Cosworth will do bigger valves, upon request, most notably for the racers who will live at higher RPM levels, as mentioned earlier......
Awesome Setup
Steve, the set up looks awesome. It looks a lot better than I expected in black. I am sure it drives a lot better also. Hopefully, I will be in the Central Valley for the next meeting to see it in person, take care.
Armando
Armando
Originally Posted by TonyB
Steve, have a great time! Sorry I can't meet ya...
Cosworth will do bigger valves, upon request, most notably for the racers who will live at higher RPM levels, as mentioned earlier. For the vast majority of us, it would just not make sense. As Bob alludes, with the M62, that might change things though. Once Peter can get a finished 62 kit, it will be neat to see what head experimentation might reveal.
Madness was/is actually at the Monterey Historics, not as a paying vendor though. They brought a yellow MCS, with lambo doors, and camped in the MINI corral soliciting... It was a little strange.
Cosworth will do bigger valves, upon request, most notably for the racers who will live at higher RPM levels, as mentioned earlier. For the vast majority of us, it would just not make sense. As Bob alludes, with the M62, that might change things though. Once Peter can get a finished 62 kit, it will be neat to see what head experimentation might reveal.
Madness was/is actually at the Monterey Historics, not as a paying vendor though. They brought a yellow MCS, with lambo doors, and camped in the MINI corral soliciting... It was a little strange.

Originally Posted by armandCooperS04
Steve, the set up looks awesome. It looks a lot better than I expected in black. I am sure it drives a lot better also. Hopefully, I will be in the Central Valley for the next meeting to see it in person, take care.
Armando
Armando

Steve
I'm suprised peter let that thing out of his sight long enough for you to get your mits on it
Originally Posted by SRTech
I hope you are well for the next event.
The paying vendors were somewhat peeved at Madness and he was backed off a bit, but not totally. The M62 should be a great addition to the MINI mod components, though it is a large initial expense. Hopefully it gets back to Spiderx and DDM for testing.



Originally Posted by 1nf3rn0
I'm suprised peter let that thing out of his sight long enough for you to get your mits on it
Randy
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