Drivetrain M& DFIC parts & Install
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From: Cumming, GA
When mine gets here, I'll be interested to see how it does at the next BMW CCA auto-x.
Last two events, the pavement was north of 135. Ouch!
Then, creeping forward in line to make the next run added insult to injury.
If it doesn't heat soak, it'll be a near miracle.
Last two events, the pavement was north of 135. Ouch!
Then, creeping forward in line to make the next run added insult to injury.
If it doesn't heat soak, it'll be a near miracle.
OVERDRIVE
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From: Greensboro, NC
Originally Posted by jymontoya
You guys rock! I just ordered my DFIC! It's going to be one of my first mods, which I feel is an excellent way to reap all the benefits of mods to come!
BTW...What's this about you moving over to NASCAR?...
6th Gear
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From: Tsunami Zone
Originally Posted by maxmini
There is included a foam strip about 1 inch square and the width of the DFIC which mounts to the underside of the hood .
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Originally Posted by hornguys
When mine gets here, I'll be interested to see how it does at the next BMW CCA auto-x.
Last two events, the pavement was north of 135. Ouch!
Then, creeping forward in line to make the next run added insult to injury.
If it doesn't heat soak, it'll be a near miracle.
Last two events, the pavement was north of 135. Ouch!
Then, creeping forward in line to make the next run added insult to injury.
If it doesn't heat soak, it'll be a near miracle.
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Originally Posted by SpiderX
Unlike other ICs the temps go down nicely with motion... so as you start to roll and get into your run.. I really belive this is the best A/A system.... don't know aboiut W/A....no claim from me during stand still
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Originally Posted by mini-c
You surely don't think that little air to air cooler is as good as a front mount do you?
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From: a canyon, south Bay Area
An FMIC on our MINI...
- double to triple the cost ($2,300 rings a bell)
- less of a DIY install (will be more costly for some needing a mechanic)
- negatively impacts the radiator efficiency
- negatively impacts the A/C, or requires its removal
- more prone to damage in a collision
- added weight (most likely), at the nose of the car
- pressure drop issues might negate cooling attributes making any performance gain marginal...
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The DFIC is a combo of a top (location) and front mount (forward-facing), blending the qualities of each.
- double to triple the cost ($2,300 rings a bell)
- less of a DIY install (will be more costly for some needing a mechanic)
- negatively impacts the radiator efficiency
- negatively impacts the A/C, or requires its removal
- more prone to damage in a collision
- added weight (most likely), at the nose of the car
- pressure drop issues might negate cooling attributes making any performance gain marginal...
========
The DFIC is a combo of a top (location) and front mount (forward-facing), blending the qualities of each.
OVERDRIVE
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From: Greensboro, NC
Originally Posted by TonyB
An FMIC on our MINI...
- double to triple the cost ($2,300 rings a bell)
- less of a DIY install (will be more costly for some needing a mechanic)
- negatively impacts the radiator efficiency
- negatively impacts the A/C, or requires its removal
- more prone to damage in a collision
- added weight (most likely), at the nose of the car
- pressure drop issues might negate cooling attributes making any performance gain marginal...
========
The DFIC is a combo of a top (location) and front mount (forward-facing), blending the qualities of each.
- double to triple the cost ($2,300 rings a bell)
- less of a DIY install (will be more costly for some needing a mechanic)
- negatively impacts the radiator efficiency
- negatively impacts the A/C, or requires its removal
- more prone to damage in a collision
- added weight (most likely), at the nose of the car
- pressure drop issues might negate cooling attributes making any performance gain marginal...
========
The DFIC is a combo of a top (location) and front mount (forward-facing), blending the qualities of each.
3rd Gear
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From: Naperville, IL
Originally Posted by MSFITOY
and ceased production due to unreliable coupling design...
OVERDRIVE
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From: Greensboro, NC
Originally Posted by mtrspt5
You're telling me! I had one, however, when it was working, it really worked well. Very little if any heat soak for the obvious reasons. Never had a problem with the radiator or air conditioning. Never felt like it pooped out on lap 5 either. Always consistent, until the inevitable.
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From: Naperville, IL
Originally Posted by MSFITOY
You're the first one first hand experience...how did it fail exactly?
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Originally Posted by mtrspt5
The supercharger side of the carbon fibre runner would fail (split) at the seam due to the rocking back and forth of the engine under accel/decel. This point was at the high side of the runner (most stressed part – see pic). The whole unit itself was not designed to handle any motion, therefore the problem. I was hopeful that Dastek (the manufacturer) would come up with a solution, but as they were in South Africa, I think they and Webb just ran out of energy on the project. It's too bad . . right before mine failed for a second time, I was at a track and it was about 90 out. I did not notice any degradation in performance the whole 40 minutes I was out on the track, whereas (before the GRS and M7 extreme) it didn't take more than a few laps for the stock intercooler to load up.
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Originally Posted by TonyB
An FMIC on our MINI...
- double to triple the cost ($2,300 rings a bell)
- less of a DIY install (will be more costly for some needing a mechanic)
- negatively impacts the radiator efficiency
- negatively impacts the A/C, or requires its removal
- more prone to damage in a collision
- added weight (most likely), at the nose of the car
- pressure drop issues might negate cooling attributes making any performance gain marginal...
========
The DFIC is a combo of a top (location) and front mount (forward-facing), blending the qualities of each.
- double to triple the cost ($2,300 rings a bell)
- less of a DIY install (will be more costly for some needing a mechanic)
- negatively impacts the radiator efficiency
- negatively impacts the A/C, or requires its removal
- more prone to damage in a collision
- added weight (most likely), at the nose of the car
- pressure drop issues might negate cooling attributes making any performance gain marginal...
========
The DFIC is a combo of a top (location) and front mount (forward-facing), blending the qualities of each.
actually I looked into it when it was a hot item and I like/liked to be an early adopter and the complexity and construction for a car I drive 100 or more miles to get to some of my favorite roads in the middle of nowhere... I had to back off... fortunately spared Bruce's experience..... speaking of which... Bruce how is your other experience going....PM me
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From: Greensboro, NC
Originally Posted by mtrspt5
The supercharger side of the carbon fibre runner would fail (split) at the seam due to the rocking back and forth of the engine under accel/decel. This point was at the high side of the runner (most stressed part – see pic). The whole unit itself was not designed to handle any motion, therefore the problem. I was hopeful that Dastek (the manufacturer) would come up with a solution, but as they were in South Africa, I think they and Webb just ran out of energy on the project. It's too bad . . right before mine failed for a second time, I was at a track and it was about 90 out. I did not notice any degradation in performance the whole 40 minutes I was out on the track, whereas (before the GRS and M7 extreme) it didn't take more than a few laps for the stock intercooler to load up.
What did you do with it?
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From: Greensboro, NC
Originally Posted by Bahamabart
The DFIC has no involvement in the "problems", I am experiencing. All of this had occurred prior to the IC swap. Like I said nobody bothered to tell me as I work my little heart out to install the IC - its just when I tell my son - "okay lets go for a test drive" that he lays this on me!
Boost I've got - seals/boots seem fine. No doubt the alternator or ground is the focal point of the power sterrring / battery problem. As for the ABS? not sure but its dealer time anyway. As for the tire pressure light - I actually know what to do here.
Scoop - thanks Peter for clarifying. I hope no one interpreted my comments as it being poor in quality which is not the case. Compared to the stock scoop its beefy. The "little ruff" just implies that some hand sanding is required before paint which is what M7 is saying. Personally I find the scoop awesome, it's agressive yet elegant and the off center hole is quirky. All of which I think commpliments the car.
A round of applause must go to MSFITOY and JS for I think they nailed it.
PS - how do you like the pic of the DFIC next to the GTT? Slight difference in size!
Boost I've got - seals/boots seem fine. No doubt the alternator or ground is the focal point of the power sterrring / battery problem. As for the ABS? not sure but its dealer time anyway. As for the tire pressure light - I actually know what to do here.
Scoop - thanks Peter for clarifying. I hope no one interpreted my comments as it being poor in quality which is not the case. Compared to the stock scoop its beefy. The "little ruff" just implies that some hand sanding is required before paint which is what M7 is saying. Personally I find the scoop awesome, it's agressive yet elegant and the off center hole is quirky. All of which I think commpliments the car.
A round of applause must go to MSFITOY and JS for I think they nailed it.
PS - how do you like the pic of the DFIC next to the GTT? Slight difference in size!
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Bruce, just curious if you had any motor mount dampers like PowerFlex bushing or the piston type that LOTF/Partsman had a group buy recently? I have both and I think that might've solved your problems...shame, that thing did look awesome What did you do with it?
What did you do with it?
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From: Naperville, IL
Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Doesn't it just blow when crap like this happens right after you do a mod? I've had experiences with other things going south coincidentaly right after my work that had nothing to do with the job...but it just throws you for a HUGE loop:impatient
Did not have them at the time. It was never suggested, nor did I think about it. Funny . . . I have since done the powerflex update. Randy's got the whole system back, but I retained the two carbon fibre runners that split.
Thanks Bob for the . . . whatever!