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Old May 29, 2006 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by spillman
I have yet to see any dyno charts. Only butt dynos and auditory thoughts. But that's about all an intake is going to do for you on any car (sound cool).
This is simply not true.....just because you have not searched the threads and the dynos that have been posted does not mean they don't exist.....they do exist I have some myself but I am not going through the trouble of posting them...... Randy Webb's name has been mentioned..... he is one of the first to post dyno numbers (without the graphs) Randy's reputation for performance knowledge has been the Gold standard around here for quite some time.....I think if he posts a number for an intake you can pretty much trust it......(I do)

Additionally, I have a bout 5 different M7 products on my car including the DFIC...... all perform better than I expected.....and i expected alot......I have come to trust Peter because his products deliver as advertised..... (my experience) I am looking forward to installin the AGS

I'm not trying to be a jerk here but people will read your post and believe your comment to be true negateing for some, a lot of hard work and research.....I know for a fact that the Webb HDI was painstakingly developed.......you don't just throw crap on the wall and come up with an AGS......

last point..... anyone who has been in my car will tell you that it is pretty quick for a non turbo car....it is not a dyno or trailer queen.... I drive it hard and often and I don't have many parts that don't add to the performance.....I have 4 different intakes and the car performs differently with each one......maybe subtle with some but there are differences......these differences are part of the joy of the Mini experience for me and others......
 
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Old May 29, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bster
M7,

1. what about when it rains heavily during the monsoon season like in my country? Have you heard any cases of the filter being soak?

2. Is the filter easy to remove for periodic cleaning?
We have not heard of one case of issues with filter soak due to rain. The filter is easy to remove for cleaning.

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Old May 30, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Kendel72
Not saying your raised the price for no reason, I am quiet sure that the new aluminum tube is by far more superior of a product and I am not saying I wont buy it, @ this point I am just trying to compare and see if there is that much more of an HP gain over the Alta for double the price. If I can talk my wife into it I will get it because the sound is unbelievable!
If the V1 that I had on for 9 months was proven to be close or slightly better than the rest then the V3 will show a substantial difference. I have the final test piece for the V3 on my car and the change was very noticeable in the higher rev range especially. The car hits a lot harder from 4,000 RPM and on than it did before. I would think that going from a stock system to this would be even more dramatic.I am also showing a 3 mpg icrease but it has only been 2 tanks of gas so far and this may or may not be a permanent change. Forgetting that the tube is now aluminum, with CNC end pieces , and the amazing sound, the added performance between the V1 and V3 is well worth the increase.

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Old May 30, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jfunkmd
here here

Probably on eof the most astute observations about any CAI/HAI/AGS that I have sene in some time.

I love Peter's products, but it would just end up in the FS forum in 12 months. Mr Webb and I have a date
Spillman is right- intakes don't fall up there with pulleys as far as power output, BUT he is wrong about the 'no proof of better performance shown' bit.

If you search around for it, the v.2 tube did notably better than the famed Alta [with tube] in the TMMZ intake shootout. This was on a stock car. With mods, the difference would likely be even more significant, I'll bet. The new v.3 has slight tweaks, I hear [hopefully M7 can add to this...], and that should make it an ever better piece. IF you're looking for the best intake, this is it. Especially, if you're looking to mod more than the CAI.
 
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Old May 30, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Spider, I am just curious how the plasma booster has performed compared to what Peter has said it would do.
 
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Old May 30, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by minimute
Spider, I am just curious how the plasma booster has performed compared to what Peter has said it would do.
I've known quite a few happy Plasma Booster owners. I remember Spider once commented on how he appreciated the smoother-running car. Many have told me that they wouldn't take it off, for the improvement in smoothness. I have an M7 PB on the way right now, and I'll let you know how I like it. FYI, Mini Mania still sells the Plasma Booster [only bundled in a different case].
 
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Old May 30, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by minimute
Spider, I am just curious how the plasma booster has performed compared to what Peter has said it would do.
Is this sarcasm or serious? either way the PB fixed my cars yo-yo which after all the other remedies were exhausted... yes all...the PB worked by far the best to the point that I quit seeing the yo-yo as a problem...... when trying all the othe "sure-fire" fixes recomended by the experts....I was ready to be done with the problem but nothing...did I say nothing, worked but the PB..... that being said I bought the PB for $75 from a person who did not want it ... maybe the best $ spent because it aleviated a lot of frustration. I am curious as to why they are so expensive as there probably is not $10 worth of parts but that was not Peter's call .. they could retail for $150 and everyone could make a reasonable profit.. IMO
 
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Old May 30, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ingsoc
Spillman is right- intakes don't fall up there with pulleys as far as power output, BUT he is wrong about the 'no proof of better performance shown' bit.

If you search around for it, the v.2 tube did notably better than the famed Alta [with tube] in the TMMZ intake shootout. This was on a stock car. With mods, the difference would likely be even more significant, I'll bet. The new v.3 has slight tweaks, I hear [hopefully M7 can add to this...], and that should make it an ever better piece. IF you're looking for the best intake, this is it. Especially, if you're looking to mod more than the CAI.
Sup Ing! Yeah, the V.3 has more than slight tweaks... it's got a completely new tube that's all CNC and TIG welded aluminum. Very nice.

Check out the tube here: http://www.m7tuning.com/main.m7/store/10003
 
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Old May 30, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by KiLO
Sup Ing! Yeah, the V.3 has more than slight tweaks... it's got a completely new tube that's all CNC and TIG welded aluminum. Very nice.

Check out the tube here: http://www.m7tuning.com/main.m7/store/10003
I'm really looking forward to mine......
 
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Old May 30, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by KiLO
Sup Ing! Yeah, the V.3 has more than slight tweaks... it's got a completely new tube that's all CNC and TIG welded aluminum. Very nice.

Check out the tube here: http://www.m7tuning.com/main.m7/store/10003
KiLO, buddeeee, is there any chance that we can get a photo like we had of the v1/2 with a look up through the center of the tube?...


Thank ya, ol' buddy ol' pal!

note: sorry about the resolution!
 
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Old May 30, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Here are two snap shots i took while working on the final fitment of the V3 on my car. First let me say that these are still work in progress shots and I was just taking these for my own records and not beauty shots by any stretch of the imagination. You can see the difference from the tube previously posted ny Kilo in this thread already.The thick weld which you see at the base of the V3 was due to the cut and bend ,re weld and test fit it again process. Time consuming and costly but part of the game when creating a new product. I could not locate a dead on end view so I included the closest one I could find . When we have the first production piece out I promise we will take all the good shots you want.

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Old May 30, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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FAT! Heh, I mean, PHAT!
 
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Old May 30, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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Well I took the plunge today and ordered one, its on backorder so hopefully it ill be shipped next week!
 
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Old May 30, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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L00Ks 'killer' yall ! ! !

bump ...fer sum SEXY welds
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Old May 31, 2006 | 01:39 AM
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So nice... but so ex... but i still want... hahaaha such a dilemma!
 
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Old May 31, 2006 | 05:37 AM
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Now thats starting to look like something, something I've seen before.
 
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Old May 31, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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Thanks Randy I think that is the best shot I have ever seen of the AGS! You really don't realize what a differance it is until you see it side by side with the stock tube. -- Johan
 
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Old May 31, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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Johan , no problem. I will try to take a better set as you still aren't getting the full effect but at least you get the idea as to what is going on.

Norm you might be thinking of the one off unit Hubie did awhile ago. It's the only other modified SC tube I can think of.

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Old May 31, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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I will take the V2 off of someone's hand if they are going for v3
 
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
We have not heard of one case of issues with filter soak due to rain. The filter is easy to remove for cleaning.

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Is removal of the bumper required for the cleaning? Or issit just a "open the bonnet and unscrew the filter" type of procedure?

Thanks.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 12:15 AM
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Good question ! But to be honest If you had to remove the bumper to clean it I would not have it on MY car LOL . It is actualy pretty simple. Basicly you undo the heat sheild , 2 bolts , loosen the t-bolt clamp on the filter and pull. Reverse process to reinstall.

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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 12:56 AM
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Very goooooood.... for the last question.

How long is the back order? hahaha
 
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
Johan , no problem. I will try to take a better set as you still aren't getting the full effect but at least you get the idea as to what is going on.

Norm you might be thinking of the one off unit Hubie did awhile ago. It's the only other modified SC tube I can think of.

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That's it! didn't remember where but when I saw it I thought, That's going to work. Looking good, hows the fit?
Question, how do you capture the flange profile at the supercharger end to CNC machine that piece?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 05:59 AM
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That's it! didn't remember where but when I saw it I thought, That's going to work. Looking good, hows the fit?
Question, how do you capture the flange profile at the supercharger end to CNC machine that piece?
The picture kinda shows that...


Sexy beast. lol.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2006 | 08:12 AM
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I just don't know how the guys in CA can pass the smog with this piece?
 
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