Drivetrain Injector Install How-To?
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03cooperr53 (10-30-2018)
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Here are the steps..
1) REmove IC.
2) Move lines held onto fuel rail. (Vac line and injector wire harness)
3) Surrounding the connection with a rag, undo the gas line (push further on the fuel rail, push in black plastic collar, remove line, it will squirt some gas).
4) Unclip injector electrical connectors (press on the metal clips and they just slide off).
5) Remove 2 13 mm bolts that hold the rail down.
6) Cover the ends of the intake horns, and blow off the dirt at the base of the injectors. Wiggle the rail a bit while you do this.
7) Remove rail.
8) each injector is held in place with a metal clip. Remove it and wiggle the injector out of the rial. Be carefull, the rail is full of gas.
9) installation is reverse of removal.
Should take less than 1/2 hour.
Matt
PS, sorry it took so long to post...
2) Move lines held onto fuel rail. (Vac line and injector wire harness)
3) Surrounding the connection with a rag, undo the gas line (push further on the fuel rail, push in black plastic collar, remove line, it will squirt some gas).
4) Unclip injector electrical connectors (press on the metal clips and they just slide off).
5) Remove 2 13 mm bolts that hold the rail down.
6) Cover the ends of the intake horns, and blow off the dirt at the base of the injectors. Wiggle the rail a bit while you do this.
7) Remove rail.
8) each injector is held in place with a metal clip. Remove it and wiggle the injector out of the rial. Be carefull, the rail is full of gas.
9) installation is reverse of removal.
Should take less than 1/2 hour.
Matt
PS, sorry it took so long to post...
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Originally Posted by Greatbear
Note that because of how fuel is metered into MINI engines, you should reprogram your ECU to calibrate it to new higher-flow injectors, or the engine will run rich at full throttle. This is not needed if you are replacing the injectors with ones of the same flow rate.
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
You mean "reset" the ECU, right?
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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
3) Surrounding the connection with a rag, undo the gas line (push further on the fuel rail, push in black plastic collar, remove line, it will squirt some gas)
1) Remove the fuel cap to relieve pressure in the tank.
2) On the end of the fuel rail is a Schrader valve (just like an innertube). With a rag to "catch" the flying fuel, press on the schrader value with a screwdriver to release the pressure.
Enjoy!
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ECU changes...
For sure, you need to do something to get the ECU to control the injectors properly. The JCW injectors are only about 10% more flow than stock, so I in closed loop, it can probably get close via the fuel trims. But WOT doesn't use the oxygen sensors to trim flow, and the car will run richer with higher flow injecotrs. Since the car runs too rich stock, this will only get worse with larger injectors. I use MTH, and upload and download maps as needed. As others have mentioned, piggybacks can perform this function as well.
Matt
ps, a user can't reset the ECU. A full reset requires the use of factory diagnositc equipement. The funcion 21 trick works on the on-board computer, not the ECU....
Matt
ps, a user can't reset the ECU. A full reset requires the use of factory diagnositc equipement. The funcion 21 trick works on the on-board computer, not the ECU....
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I just wanted to say thanks for this, it worked exactly like you have listed above.
Here is a tip though if you have an Alta IC, it can sometimes be a PITA to get it back on. I found that doing the following makes it easy:
Put the passenger side boot (it is the larger of the 2) on the IC and slip it over the intake tube like normal, making sure you put the bottom half of the boot straps in place (or good luck getting them on )
This is where I always ran into a problem but this is the way to do it quick and easy:
On the drivers side (the small side) slide the boot over the intake tube, but slide it up and over the casting as far as possible. It will almost slide far enough over to be flush with the edge of the intake tube.
Slide the 2 boot straps under it.
Drop the IC into place and pull the boot back over into its proper place on the IC and intake tube. I found it slides right on with ease this way.
Put the boot strap tops on and tighten them down and reattach the diverter.
Of course Your Mileage Might Vary, so as with all things like this, proceed at your own risk, I'm not responsible if you screw up your car etc.
At any rate after having removed the IC and put it back on my car about 10 times in the last 6 months (boost guage, cleaning, JCW injectors) figuring this out was a godsend for me. Just figured I'd share.
Here is a tip though if you have an Alta IC, it can sometimes be a PITA to get it back on. I found that doing the following makes it easy:
Put the passenger side boot (it is the larger of the 2) on the IC and slip it over the intake tube like normal, making sure you put the bottom half of the boot straps in place (or good luck getting them on )
This is where I always ran into a problem but this is the way to do it quick and easy:
On the drivers side (the small side) slide the boot over the intake tube, but slide it up and over the casting as far as possible. It will almost slide far enough over to be flush with the edge of the intake tube.
Slide the 2 boot straps under it.
Drop the IC into place and pull the boot back over into its proper place on the IC and intake tube. I found it slides right on with ease this way.
Put the boot strap tops on and tighten them down and reattach the diverter.
Of course Your Mileage Might Vary, so as with all things like this, proceed at your own risk, I'm not responsible if you screw up your car etc.
At any rate after having removed the IC and put it back on my car about 10 times in the last 6 months (boost guage, cleaning, JCW injectors) figuring this out was a godsend for me. Just figured I'd share.
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I used this guide last night when installing my RMW 440's, very helpful, did it without a hitch!
Some notes from my experience;
On step 3 - When depressing the schrader valve on the end of the fuel rail, make sure you have the area well towelled, wear safety glasses, and make sure all sources of ignition are far away, I practically had old faithful when I did mine! (I did also release the gas cap as suggested, not sure if that helped)
On step 6 - blow all the dirt and particles out of anywhere near the intake manifold and valve cover in addition to the area around the injectors
On step 7 - don't forget to reconnect the hose at the bottom of the fuel rail, I almost did!
When installing new injectors - the RMWs came with a little grease packet, be sure to rub some grease on all the injector o-rings when re-assembling so there's no chance you nick the o-ring and loose the seal. Not only does the injector seal from gas on the fuel rail end but also boost pressure on the intake manifold end.
Thanks again for the helpful writeup!
Some notes from my experience;
On step 3 - When depressing the schrader valve on the end of the fuel rail, make sure you have the area well towelled, wear safety glasses, and make sure all sources of ignition are far away, I practically had old faithful when I did mine! (I did also release the gas cap as suggested, not sure if that helped)
On step 6 - blow all the dirt and particles out of anywhere near the intake manifold and valve cover in addition to the area around the injectors
On step 7 - don't forget to reconnect the hose at the bottom of the fuel rail, I almost did!
When installing new injectors - the RMWs came with a little grease packet, be sure to rub some grease on all the injector o-rings when re-assembling so there's no chance you nick the o-ring and loose the seal. Not only does the injector seal from gas on the fuel rail end but also boost pressure on the intake manifold end.
Thanks again for the helpful writeup!
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Great thread
Just one issue as im trying to associate the descriptions with where everything is at. The images show error as if they are no longer there. Wpuld anyone happen to have any schematics or pictures? Preferably of location of fuel injector rail or something. Or maybe a more concise description of where it is located.
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Nevermind
Just one issue as im trying to associate the descriptions with where everything is at. The images show error as if they are no longer there. Wpuld anyone happen to have any schematics or pictures? Preferably of location of fuel injector rail or something. Or maybe a more concise description of where it is located.
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The injectors have steel bodies and corrode over time.
This can make them stick in the aluminium inlet manifold.....
This makes them a ***** to get out all in one go.
I think I ended up un-clipping them from the injector rail, one by one.
Then you can remove the rail and pull each injector out of the manifold one by one.
When replacing though you need to clip them all to the fuel rail first and install all at the same time.
Cheers
Chris
This can make them stick in the aluminium inlet manifold.....
This makes them a ***** to get out all in one go.
I think I ended up un-clipping them from the injector rail, one by one.
Then you can remove the rail and pull each injector out of the manifold one by one.
When replacing though you need to clip them all to the fuel rail first and install all at the same time.
Cheers
Chris
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Just one issue as im trying to associate the descriptions with where everything is at. The images show error as if they are no longer there. Wpuld anyone happen to have any schematics or pictures? Preferably of location of fuel injector rail or something. Or maybe a more concise description of where it is located.
If you aren't sure what the fuel rail is you might want to have someone else work on it. Or least have someone help you do it. There really is no need for pictures.
And as Chris said it can be really hard to get the injectors out now. 10 years ago it was easy.