I don't get it, wouldn't that mean the helix kit basically makes the accelerator an on-off switch? Wouldn't that mean that you coudn't do anything in first gear?

 

No, not an off/on switch. Actually it sounds like it limits the boost level attainable at partial throttle. But for WOT type of conditions, it then allows the boost controller to manage the boost levels. So you get the best of both worlds, low boost for part throttle which means better fuel economy and easier throttle control, but then when you want the accelleration, kick it past 80% and let the boost controller do its thing.

FWIW, I've got the SPI/Fireballed kit on my car and it does take some getting used to. However, my wife can drive my car, and even she'd agree, she's not the best driver, but she can drive my 300hp car.

So it's a matter of personal choice. Do you want DSC on or off? Do you want more or less control of the car? Do you want a boost controller, or do you want to use your right foot? Etc. Etc. Some people like being in control, such as Tuls. Other people like the "ease" of driving afforded by gadgets.

 

maybe I am not understanding... see the car only builds boost if you step on it... I can kepp the car at almost no boost and accelerate...that's what the trottle does...

Am I understanding this correctly... do people think the car builds boost no matter what the throttle position is...

this is what I am asking I guess

 

The top paragraph pretty much sums it up. I bet my TK Mini drives very much like the TC Mini, except being more easily kept at lower boost settings when high boost is not needed. The only way to know for sure would be for some of us to meet and drive each other's cars.

The "gadget" thing is relative, though. Unless I'm mistaken your Mini has a computer, ABS, power steering, radio, etc, etc.

 

If you're ever in AZ...

 

The Idea behind the throttle position boost control is to help make the car more drivable and put the car is a better tuning position. With the turbo ontop of the SC you make more boost partial throttle then SC alone. You need fuel to compensate for this. The best bet is to restrict the amount of boost in this area where it is not needed, hense reduce the fuel need as well. It is not a bandaid as much as it is good tuning. Look at turbo Audi cars. They have different boost targets for different throttle positions and RPMs. This is from the factory. When tuning a car like this you need to develop a plan in order for the car and the driver to last.:impatient