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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:43 AM
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When do you usually shift your MCS

I just wonder where is the most common rpm's range of shifting... be honest!
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:55 AM
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Around my neighborhood when I am trying to be efficient. . I shift around 4000

Accellerating from a stop on a freeway on-ramp. . . . >6000
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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I normally shift at about 3500, but I shift at 6800-7100 when I'm in the mood
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:53 AM
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Redline Baby Redline!
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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JCW was 3000. For the N/A cooper 3500, when im on the move about 5500 +/-. There is no use in squeezing the juice out of the cooper engine as there is not that much power above 6K.


Edit: I read that the valves float at 8500
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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In everyday driving, I drive at about 3000 RPM and shift at about 4000 RPM. This just seems to be what the car "wants" to do. If I'm feeling frisky... well, those numbers get quite a bit higher.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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When driving for economy, I shift at about 3000. Accelerating hard I shift around 5,500-6,000--I haven't pushed it farther than that yet.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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I don't watch RPMs never have. The car just tells me when to shift. Will watch RPMs next time I drive to see.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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For normal economical driving, before MTH I shifted about 3000/3500, but after MTH is around 2500/3000.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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Usually between...

3500 and 4000 depending on the speed limit. If the engine has warmed up and I'm entering an interstate highway then I usually shift between 4500 and 6000. My gas mileage averages around 32mpg.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Under normal driving, anywhere from 2500-3500. I try to keep the rpm's (especially in the higher gears) above 2k for the gear I'm going to shift into. If the engine isn't warm, I'll keep it below 3k but once its warmed up, I'll let it rip on an onramp up in the 5-6k range. Our mileage is in the 32-34 mpg range.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bster
For normal economical driving, before MTH I shifted about 3000/3500, but after MTH is around 2500/3000.
Now, why is that???

I shift 3-3500. Sometimes while just in traffic I find my self skipping gears.
Like going from 3rd to 5th. Rpm's only drop 300-400 w/ each shift.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jefeant
I just wonder where is the most common rpm's range of shifting... be honest!
Your supposed to shift

No wonder the car never goes more than 40 mph
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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normal drive is usually under 4k for me.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Normal driving : 3500 rpm

Spirited driving : 7200 rpm (MTH Tuner software, rocks!!)

MTH and 15% pulley get a lot nore low-end torque, so I don't need to rev the engine a lot to get power...
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
Your supposed to shift

No wonder the car never goes more than 40 mph
Lol. I can take 'er to 57 mph in first [8,150 rpm baby!]. Oh, and DO I EVER!

PS: I hit 100 mph in 3rd at right around the quarter mile mark ;-). Oh, the fun!
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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I thought the little red lines were where you were to shift...
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by coopercrazy
Now, why is that???
Well, after the MTH, it's more power for the same speed at lower revs. Maybe it's just me... Anybody wants to concurr with this?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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Most driving: 3000-3500 Spirited: somehwere in the 5500-6000 range I think, I am usually too busy to look.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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If i wana push it: 6500 to 7000

If its normal street driving: 3000-4000
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bster
Well, after the MTH, it's more power for the same speed at lower revs. Maybe it's just me... Anybody wants to concurr with this?
Nice, i plan on mth after pully install.
Maybe this is why guys w/ mth get better mpgs!!!
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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Someone did some nice curves on this over at mini2. In a nutshell, on an unmodified S, the maximum acceleration for each gear is roughly between 4000 to 6000 RPM. If you shift to the next highest gear at 6000 RPM, you'll be well within the most efficient powerband--you'll come in right around 4000 RPM in the next gear. It varies from gear to gear, but not that much, and 6000 is a nice benchmark for when to shift so that you're ready to go in the next gear. Above 6000 RPM, you're actually accelerating less then in the next highest gear at 4000 RPM, if that makes sense. Of course, this only applies to an unmodified MCS...
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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Our mileage is in the 32-34 mpg range.
Are you kidding me? My MCS is lucky to get ~23 around town (mild to peppy driving by me) and ~28-30 on the highway.

Is there something I am missing here? I am completely stock other than a catback. I only have 30000 miles, and I am wondering if I should take it in and see if there is a problem with something to get such crappy gas mileage.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by AggieMCS
Are you kidding me? My MCS is lucky to get ~23 around town (mild to peppy driving by me) and ~28-30 on the highway.

Is there something I am missing here? I am completely stock other than a catback. I only have 30000 miles, and I am wondering if I should take it in and see if there is a problem with something to get such crappy gas mileage.
Get a device to help control the A/F ratio (such as an APEXi) and get your car dyno tuned. I found my 2003 MCS ran PIG rich!!! My firends 2002 MCS ran pig rich as well. We're talking less than $500 (which is well less than an catback exhaust) to get the apexi unit and have it dyno tuned. Well worth it! Get your A/Fs in line and you should see not only a noticable performance gain, but also a gain in your MPG.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Dont' worry Aggie--there's a thread elsewhere talking about the OBC and misreading MPG. No one gets 33 MPG in a MINI unless it's parked. Most people are getting 25mpg with occassional excessiveness, and spirited driving around town will garner 23 or lower. If you're getting more than 25 you're not driving your car hard enough, often enough!
 
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