what max hp gain is safe for a cooper s with
M7 ags stock TB
miltek exhaust no resonator
M7 16% pulley
M7 2% crank pulley

 

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We find that the 60 hp level is a good one that is safe and does not require larger injectors. If you go beyond that then we recommend our larger injectors. As for safety maby give Will Turner a call at Turner's Motor Sports. He has our system in his mini and by his conservative estimate has put over 20 tanks fulls thru the car with NO issues. He has NOS as a daily driver

Randy
M7 Tuning

 

Cmon Randy.....You know Will isnt gonna talk to anyone he doesnt know.

 

He didn't know me until he tracked my car I only use him as a valid example that NOS can be used safely and consitantly . As he put it it is a ritual at the shop to " fill the tank " on friday nights.

Randy
M7 Tuning

 

I never had any problems using NOS on cars ive built.....Long as you dont get stupid with it and its setup right, it will work fine everytime with no problems.

We'll see Will at the track this year. Prob only thing we'll see his is tail lights, as usual.

 

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would you mind elaborating on what happened? You could PM if you'd like.

 

I guess your "foolproof" must be the M7 system since they are the only ones calling nitrous foolproof. Sorry to hear that. Are they doing anything to help you?

 

Foolproof conjures up images of the space shuttle taking of to space gracefully, Reaching the black void with ease,
and then return to earth glowing from the
Friction of the atmosphere............Nothing is foolproof period.

We have over 150 systems in the market place, with an incredibly small amount of serious engine problems. What the system can't prevent is
for instance, bad gas, to big of a N2O nozzle, 19% pulley plus too much N2O,
Overheating from to many consecutive pulls without cooling down between, low on oil creating excessive heat in rotating assembly,
Dirt in fuel clogging an injector, not using large enough fuel injectors with to
much N2O, Staying on the juice for a extended period of time >15seconds, etc.etc.

If you would use it, with some kind of conservative approach, the system has proven incredibly safe and reliable in close to 100% of the time.

As for SCCA I think I know who it is, and I did offer him to get replacement parts at cost, not retail, so I did everything you could expect
A tuner to do in a situation like this.

PS. we don't call our system foolproof.

Sincerely

Peter
Team M7
562-608-8123
not retail

 

"As for SCCA I think I know who it is, and I did offer him to get replacement parts at cost, not retail, so I did everything you could expect
A tuner to do in a situation like this."





Peter, this was the same offer you gave to me, and I do appreciate the offer. However, I have already put in a new motor. Can I have the "black box" , and 400cc injectors tested for proper function before I re-install?

 

It would be my pleassure to run diagnostics on the black box, and
do some flow test on the injectors.

Give me a call and I'l give you our Fedex# so you can ship them for free.

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123

 

Bisch - when did you drop ni a new engine? Last I remember I was watching you burnout on the dyno at Yarrowsport!

 

I thought I should follow up here a bit...I did blow the motor as a result of using NOS but I do not blaim Peter or the system he offers. I was running a 19% pulley...although I think bad gas was the culprit and along with heavy usage. Also, I put TONS of NOS though this motor and had a blast with it. I honestly don't believe most stock internals would take it near as long as this motor did. Understand I was making at least one brief shot a day!..it's too addictive not to really...for me anyway. Even though it cost me tons of money,It was one heck of a experience.
On the up side, I finally have a new motor being shipped and BMP Design is going to do the install in about two weeks...car has been sitting for over 6 months...I've learned my lesson for sure,no NOS this time, but that's not because of the system, It's because of the variables I cannot control like bad gas etc. My opinion is this: If you can't afford a new motor, restrain your enthusiasm about a NOS system. However, If you are "well to do" by all means this is the system you'll want and it works perfectly and is a lot of fun.
Peter has been nothing but helpfull from the start from the install to offering replacement parts at cost. I honestly believe m7 offers the most well engineered products on the market and plan on purchasing several other items he offers.
I would like to publicly apologize to Peter If I sounded like I was bashing him or his products...I'm really not, I just get pissed whenever I think about how I blew it up my motor and it came through in my comments. Bottom line is that is was my own fault. It's not all bad, I'll finally be getting my car back on the road very soon and I've learned alot. Peter, I look forward to talking to you soon and ordering some more cool stuff for my Mini.
Regards,
Garry

 

Thank you Garry I do appreciate it...

And yes Nitrous can be a two edge sword, it will make your car unbelievably
fast, but it can also go bang unbelievably fast.. The correct way to use it
is to be consevative with the bottle, always use the best gas available to you, and keep the pulls less then 20 seconds at a time...

And Garry consider your self part of "Club M7" and if you call me you will know what that meens.

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123

 

Hey...this is great thread. I am new to the mini scene, but not the perfomance one. I just sold my talon and i was planning on hooking up a 50 shot to my cooper s. I have a wet Nos kit as well as a dry zex kit thats on currently on my stang. My mini was going to be a daily non mod driver until i ran past a 350z on the highway to my surprise...thats when i noticed something was up with my car "I bought i used" it has mini mania pulley and god knows what else, just wondering where can get schematics for the nos install as well as a clean boost guage hook up.

 

Boost is easy, under your intercooler is the fuel rail, the pressure regulator is in the middle of the rail. Tee off the line at the bottom of the regulator for boost.

You not really going to find specific nitrous schematics, it depends a lot on what system you have and what components in the system that you want (rpm window switch, fuel pressure safety switch, WOT switch, purge kit ect...) For example a dry kit vs. a wet kit is going to be totally different. Your best bet will be to contact the manufacture of the system that you have. Hope this helps! -- Johan

 

Johan thanks man, i am going to use the Zex dry kit, prolly get a set of M7 400's I like the clean install Zex brings to the table, if i did not have this kit would prolly get the M7 one though. This kit ties into the regulator, any other spot i can tap for the boost guage.

 

WOW>...Talk about putting my foot in my mouth....lol

 

At least you admitted it LOL

 

Yes i did!.....But i will say this....it wont happen again.

 

Conservative setup and prudent use are key to an enjoyable Nitrous experience...my system's been trouble free for over a year. Having Venom's automatic lean shutdown safe guard is a great setup. If you want extra measure of safety, don't add more than 60hp, add 400cc injectors, water/meth injection, don't use mapping that advances your timing, and install a wideband A/F gauge. Use bottle temperature control system with an adjustable pressure switch that will maintain pressure between 900 and 950psi. Don't use Nitrous at low rpms (below 4k) and don't use below third gear or on questionable road surfaces where you WILL experience traction loss and the chance of bouncing the rev limiter...both are not good for a motor breathing Nitrous

 

Is it safe to run meth inj a long with the spray? I have em both but never used them in conjunction.

 

50/50 methanol and distilled water...cool running

 

ok...by monday i should have the meth injection and my zex kit running. I was going to buy 400's injector but i will wait a bit since i am running only a 50 shot for now.