hehehe im sorry, but that sounds like they ran into an "issue" and instead of doing anything found a hoaky way to advertise it as a retro addition to the car

I'm glad they kept it though....can't wait to hear it when i get my MCS

 

Mini did it on purpose. I don't know what year they started it but the 02's don't crackle.

 

MINI is very conscious of the sound of their cars. Here's a quote from their press release for the 2005 Detroit Auto Show:

Nothing specific about the burble (and they were talking about the MCSa which was about to be released), but anyone who calls exhaust mounts "acoustic bridges" definitely has their head in the right place!

I've heard people say that part of the hp increase in 2005s was due to a redesigned, less restrictive exhaust. It may be that the burbles were already there and you couldn't hear them on the earlier cars. Has anyone tried fitting an 05 or later exhaust on an earlier car? The two inner supports at the rear have to be rotated 90 degrees, but that can be done by heating them with a torch and twisting them. That's the only change, as far as I know. (At least I think that's right.)

I think I've also read that earlier cars fitted with aftermarket exhausts burble. Is that correct?

 

I have no issue with it but I think many missed my point.

So often "enthusiasts" "forget" that they are most likely in a small minority AND that everyone else is just like them. I stand by what I said in that I would believe the Majority of MINI owners could care less ... those are the silent majority that just go about their business ... don't "mod" anything ... and are perfectly happy

 

I have an 04 JCW S and I want my burble, were's my burble, Oh' sure I hear a little burble when I first get going in the morning but it goes away once we're hot. I've seen that some are taking out the resonator to obtain a better exhuast note ( that's up to each & everyone of us as to what that is) as for me I also have a 1967 Austin Mini with a LCB header & a Clive Trickey exhuast system & I love that sound, I grew up on that sound. So I guess I'm asking if I have a pipe made to replace the resonator in my 04 will I notice it, will it sound cool & not rice rocketish :impatient What to do.

 

Hmm... If you are in a small minority, how can everyone else be just like you? (Perhaps you meant to insert a "not" before "just"?)

 

Well I'm certainly glad we've apparently settled the heretofore unasked question of who will speak for the silent majority of MINI owners that just go about their business...don't "mod" anything...and are perfectly happy.

And would likely have very little use for this web site or a thread about the exhaust burble.

I'm sure all those silent MINI owners are tickled pink to have a spokesbeing after all these years of voicelessness. But then, silence probably pretty much implies voicelesness.

 

Attention Mini Owners: Please pay no attention to the exhaust burble. Just go about your business. Thank you.

 

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I speak only for myself & I stand by what I said. I love my burble

 

I liked my burble on my 05 MCS from the day I picked it up. My Borla Race exhaust which I got late in the year really exaggerates that sound and I love it even more.

Go burble, go burble, go burble



H

 

Until now I didn't know that pre - 05 MINIs didn't burble. I like the burble.

Whenever my girlfiend is in my MINI with me she thinks there is something wrong with my car. Obviously it aggravates her. I give up any effort to explain.

 

my 79 burbles like crazy. didn't used to very much but when I cleaned the carb it really came on strong. sounds like a harley at idle now. i think i run a little rich altho the plugs are clean. since I don't backfire or stall or ping I don't mess with it too much....

1275, hif-6, lcb, playmini twin dtm

(what does dtm stand for anyway? they are always just listed a dtm.... I know what it looks like but what do the letters stand for)

and yes I KNOW this isn't the classic board but I never got answers over there....

 

Boy the below is refreshing! Sometimes I feel like the only car enthusiast over 25 years old on the face of the earth! Till I catch GoodWood on Speed Channel...

Well said Spunky

a small side track if I may...

Speaking of youngsters who just don't get it, someone told me at a DCMM gathering once that they considered the MINI a sports car, but didn't consider MINI convertibles sports cars. "Sports cars are hard tops" he said. It was all I could do not to laugh in his face. Yes, hard tops are stiffer, but sports cars are about the experience, ambiance, feel, AND performance. Not just performance. RACE cars are about performance only. Not sports cars.

I would tend define a MINI between a sports car and a GT (in the 60's idea of a GT, not todays' sticker = GT marketing speak) but the idea that all the MG, Truimph, Healy, Jaguar, Ferrari, Alfa, Porsche speedster, SL's etc. owners of the past were misled and that they didn't have sports cars 'cause they were ragtops is h[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]ysterical[/FONT][/SIZE].

It's a bloody shame if someone buys a MINI and doesn't know a little bit of the heritage of Mini's, British sports cars, and vintage sports cars all of which is part of the MINI 'theme' and 'schtick' (sp?). They're missing some of the fun!

Mark

 

The burbling is slight amounts of excess fuel buring in the exhaust pipe, way up by the manifold. S models all tend to run a bit rich. Lifting off the gas quickly between 2000 and 3000rpm does the trick nicely. If you have an earlier car, installing a less restrictive (louder) exhaust accentuates the effect. I've got a Magnaflow on my 2003 MCS and it burbles very nicely.

Scott
90SM

 

I drive around in 2nd gear so I can hear the burble!

 

I drive around in 2nd gear so I can hear the burble in my 02! Oh yeah! It burbles especially with the Scorpion

 

I did some pretty heavy exhaust mods on my '85 944 Porsche (header, no cat) and it burbles and snarls like you would not believe. Therefore, I see what little it could have to do with "timing," as clearly changes to the pipes coming off the big german 4 cause the same, if not greater effect.
If you didn't already guess, its one of the things I love best about sports cars, and race cars alike.
TJM

 

I have a custom 3" catback with one muffler on my 2003 MCS and it burbles alot, I absolutley love it! pop pop pop!

I didn't have the popping with the stock exhaust though. Also i get it in all gears, as long as I let off the throttle.

 

I liked it better when you took the risk, stated your opinion, and didn't do what you just did here...back pedal. So what if no one agreed with you???

 

I don't understand what your saying. I didn't backpedal out of anything. Originally I wrote:

Some ppl think its "cool". I would think the vast majority of average drivers just find it annoying.

I stand by that 100%. Look at some of the answers ... many enthusiast love their burble. But I've also read many, many other places were it irritates people who expect a quiet exhaust (and maybe MINI isnt the right car for them).

I then wrote:

I have no issue with it but I think many missed my point.

So often "enthusiasts" "forget" that they are most likely in a small minority AND that everyone else is just like them. I stand by what I said in that I would believe the Majority of MINI owners could care less ... those are the silent majority that just go about their business ... don't "mod" anything ... and are perfectly happy

Again, I think the majority don't like it but perhaps live with it. So I don't see where I "backed down". If your asking whether I, personally like it, you probably asked the wrong person. I have a borla race and think it wussie, too quiet and have written that in several threads. My wife, who drives it all the time, thinks its too quiet. Part of that is because she's used to the exhaust two feet behind her head like in two-seater sports cars.

However, whether I happen to like it or not has no bearing whatsoever on what I believe the "masses like"

 

I liked the burble from day one. It sounds even better since getting an exhaust.

 

I stuck a $200 Remus Exhaust on my '03 Cooper and it burbles very nicely!

 

Earlier cars with OEM exhausts will also burble a little bit, but yes, the 05s burbling is definitely more noticeable. An aftermarket exhaust on an 05 MCS would sound totally awesome!!!

I have a Milltek cat-back on my April 04 MCS and it burbles a bit better now than it ever did stock (ie. if it burbled with the OEM zorst I could never here in the cabin, whereas I can now).

Oddly, or perhaps not I guess, the type of fuel can have an effect on the exhaust note too. I recently ran some tanks of the new (in Australia anyway) Sheel Optimax Extreme 100RON fuel* and the crackling on overrun was basically non-existant with that fuel. Bah, can't have that! So, I'm back on 98RON fuel now and the burble is back.

I love it by the way!

Here's a clip (approx 3mb).

http://www.users.on.net/~rasper/video/Milltek_revs_001.avi

*Australian fuel ratings are different to US, our 98RON & 100RON fuels would not match the same US figures, don't ask me why, it's just the way it is.

 

If you want to really minimize the burble, close off those big acoustic channels in the back of the car - the tail lights.

A large amount of the exhaust noise enters the Mini cabin via the tail lights and then through the cubby panels on the sides of the boot.

I took a couple of pieces of thick carpet and replaced the fake carpet on the backs of the cubby doors, and then a second piece on each side about 6x9" just inside the inside of the tail lights.

The result is that not only is the burble muted to a soft cough, but you can hardly hear any exhaust noise at all. It's so much quieter back there that it makes me want to get an aftermarket cat-back, just to get some more "acoustic feedback"...