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Old Nov 24, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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Hi SpiderX,
there is either not a street or a race cam.
I talk to the developer at schrick about the details of the cam.
The most advantage is the higher valve lift on the exhaust side.
The first versions had not a big power gain but on my own car the actual cam brought 20 hp!
The 264°/272° cam is the only one schrick sale for the cooper s all other versions are old one.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 05:06 AM
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I think I found what I was looking for in Mini2....... there was apost that said there was a 252/260 cam apparently no longer produced. I have to get with Randy but I think that is what I have.......if so I will be replaceing.......anybody want a slightly more agggessive cam?
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SpiderX
I think I found what I was looking for in Mini2....... there was apost that said there was a 252/260 cam apparently no longer produced. I have to get with Randy but I think that is what I have.......if so I will be replaceing.......anybody want a slightly more agggessive cam?
Is there such a cam available? I love my Schrick, and I personally think it doesn't get fun until 4k or so. That's when I REALLY feel it, and the engine sounds AWESOME!
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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Hi There....

Just a heads up on a new cam that we at M7 have been working on lately.
It will be a little hotter then the Schrick and it's built to take advantage of the new 8120 rpm shift point.

We will receive the cam by the end of this week and we will install it and report back. The expected price range will be $399-$420

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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by M7
the new 8120 rpm shift point.
What else did you do to achive this shift point / redline? And is the engine still making power all the way up there?
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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And is the engine still making power all the way up there?
Yup, even with 19% .
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by M7
Hi There....

Just a heads up on a new cam that we at M7 have been working on lately.
It will be a little hotter then the Schrick and it's built to take advantage of the new 8120 rpm shift point.

We will receive the cam by the end of this week and we will install it and report back. The expected price range will be $399-$420

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let me know......how will it behave at idle and day to day driving. The word is that the schrick is very well behaved.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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I don't care the idle, it won't bother me even if i am a daily driver. Reliability and the performance takes the lead of my priorities ; )
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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SpideyX perhaps an option http://www.gtt.uk.com/parts2.asp
 
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 04:34 AM
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I spoke with Randy re the "street" cam which is no longer produced. He said that the difference with what I have is a few HP at the very top and it is possible that I would lose torque below 5K (which I do NOT want to do) He feels the "race" cam idles a little rough compared to the "street" cam and if they still made it, the "street" is what he would recommend for a "street" car. His car runs on the track always between 5K and 7K and takes full advantage of the "race" cam that is in his car. I don't know anyone in Atlanta that has a race cam. Could someone post some audio....for me. I am still curious.....TIA.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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you can barely barely barely barley tell the difference between the stock cam and the schrick cam at idle... it is a very mild cam in comparrison to upgraded cams for other cars.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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If that cam is a little rough, I would hate to see what he thinks a car with a serious cam is like. I was excited when I got mine for the cam sound, but the idle hardly changed at all. The "race" cam is more than streetable. So streetable, I have a hard time calling it a "race" cam.

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He feels the "race" cam idles a little rough compared to the "street" cam
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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If that cam is a little rough, I would hate to see what he thinks a car with a serious cam is like. I was excited when I got mine for the cam sound, but the idle hardly changed at all. The "race" cam is more than streetable. So streetable, I have a hard time calling it a "race" cam.
Funny how this is the only known cam for the Mini. Nothing else on the market?
M7 hurry up for our sake:impatient
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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Schrick has cornered the market because they put out a good, proven quality product. And as I see it Schrick has set the standard. So anything else would be "a copycat".
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dufrinr
Schrick has cornered the market because they put out a good, proven quality product. And as I see it Schrick has set the standard. So anything else would be "a copycat".
Sorry Dufrinr, but you are wrong.....

Schrick makes a great cam, but saying or inferring that it "is" the only choice is ignorant.

I would not bring in a new product to M7 unless I felt that it's the best possible product we could offer. And if I could not add something special to the mix (like better performance) I wouldn’t even consider it.

I would think that M7 bringing in a new cam would make you feel great IE. Allowing you to make a choice that will benefit you, and the ultimate goal....
A car that kicks a**

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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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M7....didn't wanna start a gripe session.....but Schrick has been doing cams for Mini since production and has in fact set the standard. And also Schrick is partnered with Kelleners which also puts out a good quality stage III/IV kit for Mini. Yes, you are an alternative which is cool too. At least Mini owners have a choice. For aftermarket build I researched and went with the best as far as long gevity in the market, reputation, and HP gains vs the $$$ spent. But as with anything....what you decide to do to your Mini is your own business. To each their own. It all comes down to your budget, preferences, and expecatitions.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 05:04 AM
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for a naturally aspirated car, a race cam runs lumpy at idle because they increase the overlap, done so more air/gas can get in the combustion chamber when revving up and the air is moving faster. with a forced induction motor, increased ovelap is not so desireable as it leads to blowing fuel right out the exhaust. Instead, valve lift is optimized with a much less radical overlap.
the rule of thumb is you don't see as much improvement changing cams with a blown engine and if you do change them, the idle won't typically be sacrificed
 
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jlm
for a naturally aspirated car, a race cam runs lumpy at idle because they increase the overlap, done so more air/gas can get in the combustion chamber when revving up and the air is moving faster. with a forced induction motor, increased ovelap is not so desireable as it leads to blowing fuel right out the exhaust. Instead, valve lift is optimized with a much less radical overlap.
the rule of thumb is you don't see as much improvement changing cams with a blown engine and if you do change them, the idle won't typically be sacrificed
I'm not sure what stock is but the street cam is 252/260 vs. 264/272 Randy told me that he only sees a dif between these two in the last few hundred rpm (which I dont care) and is not worth the $ to change,.... what do you think?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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Sorry Dufrinr, but you are wrong.....

Schrick makes a great cam, but saying or inferring that it "is" the only choice is ignorant.

I would not bring in a new product to M7 unless I felt that it's the best possible product we could offer. And if I could not add something special to the mix (like better performance) I wouldn’t even consider it.

I would think that M7 bringing in a new cam would make you feel great IE. Allowing you to make a choice that will benefit you, and the ultimate goal....
A car that kicks a**

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Thank you for a new choice
 
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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That has been proven with products like the plasma booster...

Originally Posted by M7
I would not bring in a new product to M7 unless I felt that it's the best possible product we could offer.

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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by motorsports3
That has been proven with products like the plasma booster...
...which is still sold successfully by MiniMania, just in a re-fashioned package. Everyone I've ever heard speak about it [who HAD one or had driven with one] loved it. Try looking for user opinions. It's scary how many people will talk about this piece without ever having even seen one, nor heard from an owner [I won't even bother counting the precious few [0 of the 4 who I have known] who had actually driven with one and complained with some authority].

link, in case you'd still be inclined not to believe: http://new.minimania.com/web/Item/NM.../InvDetail.cfm
 
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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you have to go to an expert for the cam advice; NA, turbo and SC are all different with differing requirements.

you are kidding about the plasma booster, right?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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I agree with that!

I know I was joking about the plasma booster, I am not sure if others are.

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you have to go to an expert for the cam advice; NA, turbo and SC are all different with differing requirements.

you are kidding about the plasma booster, right?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jlm
you have to go to an expert for the cam advice; NA, turbo and SC are all different with differing requirements.

you are kidding about the plasma booster, right?
I'm dead serious. I am not sure what you mean, but I've only ever heard great things about it increasing gas mileage and smoothing idle in real life, from actual owners. Why do you speak so badly, and with what providence?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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do a search on plasma booster...try this for example;
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...plasma+booster

do your homework, the posts go way back, then start choosing sides.

by the way, you probably meant "provenance", place of origin. Not the correct word, however. try "authority." I've been to Providence, though, and isn't God provident?
 
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