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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
I can help:

blue .025"
red .030"
green .035"
purple.040"
gold .045"
black .050"
clear .055"

http://www.venom-performance.com/nf/...tallmanual.pdf
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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The install manuall is the generic VCN-1000 system, the MINI manuall will be
more in depth with a total wiring diagram ETC. And you can only get one if
you buy a system

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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by M7
The install manuall is the generic VCN-1000 system, the MINI manuall will be
more in depth with a total wiring diagram ETC. And you can only get one if
you buy a system

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no problem thanks again
 
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 03:08 AM
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just out of curiosity how long will a tank of NOS last roughly,

I know it depends on how much you use it,
would it last a minute continously???
 
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 06:13 AM
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This depends heavily on the user. You should not run the nitrous continuously for more than 15 seconds per application and allow cool down in between. I don't use mine for drag racing, so I can't tell you how many runs a 10lb bottle can be sustained. I take the Mini out 2-3 days out a week on average and run the nitrous maybe 2-3 time per day for around 5-10 seconds. That said, it seems like mine would last a month under these conditions before the pressure begins to drop... Good thing too as it cost $45 around here to fill up I suspect much of the gas is lost through connections at the AN fittings so I make sure to turn off the bottle when not running the Mini. Also, you can get AN seals from Peliquin Racing. On top of that, I use a large solenoid near the bottle as the last arm stage so as to keep as much of the gas in the bottle for as long as possible.

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just out of curiosity how long will a tank of NOS last roughly,

I know it depends on how much you use it,
would it last a minute continously???
 
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 06:15 AM
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This depends heavily on the user. You should not run the nitrous continuously for more than 15 seconds per application and allow cool down in between. I don't use mine for drag racing, so I can't tell you how many runs a 10lb bottle can be sustained. I take the Mini out 2-3 days out a week on average and run the nitrous maybe 2-3 time per day for around 5-10 seconds. That said, it seems like mine would last a month under these conditions. Good thing too as it cost $45 around here to fill up I suspect much of the gas is lost through connections at the AN fittings so I make sure to turn off the bottle when not running the Mini. Also, you can get AN seals from Peliquin Racing. On top of that, I use a large solenoid near the bottle as the last arm stage so as to keep as much of the gas in the bottle for as long as possible.

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just out of curiosity how long will a tank of NOS last roughly,

I know it depends on how much you use it,
would it last a minute continously???
 
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 04:17 AM
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is it safe to use the system if im stopped at lights and arm the NOS,
it should only operate at WOT before I shift gear,
is this a safe thing to do?
or is it only safe to operate when in top gear at WOT,
just to know if I would have an advantage at a stop light?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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Not sure I understand your question. You can arm and go through the gears with N2O at WOT. The thing to keep in mind is that LOW rpm and N2O do not mix. If you went WOT with nitrous say at 1500 rpm engaged in 5th gear, likely you'll end up with bent rods or a hole in your piston:smile: The tremendous torque will destroy your motor. I never apply nitrous unless my rpm is over 3500 rpm. Also, I avoid nitrous until I'm into third gear (unless you're into drag racing). I've never applied it in first as the tires would just go up in smoke (unless you have proper drag radials)...second is great but get ready to shift quickly as the redline comes in a blink but it'll feel like someone rammed you from behind

I baby mine too much. Love to hear from you other guys running Venom with black jet at the strip I've heard low 13's...no?
Originally Posted by Profpatpending
is it safe to use the system if im stopped at lights and arm the NOS,
it should only operate at WOT before I shift gear,
is this a safe thing to do?
or is it only safe to operate when in top gear at WOT,
just to know if I would have an advantage at a stop light?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Not sure I understand your question. You can arm and go through the gears with N2O at WOT. The thing to keep in mind is that LOW rpm and N2O do not mix. If you went WOT with nitrous say at 1500 rpm engaged in 5th gear, likely you'll end up with bent rods or a hole in your piston:smile: The tremendous torque will destroy your motor. I never apply nitrous unless my rpm is over 3500 rpm. Also, I avoid nitrous until I'm into third gear (unless you're into drag racing). I've never applied it in first as the tires would just go up in smoke (unless you have proper drag radials)...second is great but get ready to shift quickly as the redline comes in a blink but it'll feel like someone rammed you from behind

I baby mine too much. Love to hear from you other guys running Venom with black jet at the strip I've heard low 13's...no?
thanks you got it in one,
I'm nearly convinced,
is there any long term side effects on the motor from using NOS???
 
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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Just stay conservative with the power gain and you'll be ok. If you plan on dumping a 100hp into it and racing every car that went by, you'll be working on your motor very soon
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thanks you got it in one,
I'm nearly convinced,
is there any long term side effects on the motor from using NOS???
 
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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Wow. I amnot interested in drag racing, but Being able to accelerate like low 13's sounds fun. I cant wait to install my kit.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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13.5 with a lot of wheel spin!! It is capable of much better with traction.

I run the black (a lot) with 19%, HAI, 400's, and other mods...

I can down-shift to fourth at about 70mph, romp the pedal, and roast the tires .

GTO's, Mushtangs, Carrera 4's, STI's, WRX's and so, so many more....wasted. And the funny part is seeing the looks on their faces . "what the f--- just happened?"
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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Damn Bisch I wish I could use the black. Mine keeps shutting down when ever I run the purple M7 and the guys at Venom don't have an answer for me so I just have to settle for the green
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13.5 with a lot of wheel spin!! It is capable of much better with traction.

I run the black (a lot) with 19%, HAI, 400's, and other mods...

I can down-shift to fourth at about 70mph, romp the pedal, and roast the tires .

GTO's, Mushtangs, Carrera 4's, STI's, WRX's and so, so many more....wasted. And the funny part is seeing the looks on their faces . "what the f--- just happened?"
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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Ditto here. But I think I may be even using less than the green. Same thing happens from the first day of install. Control unit shuts down injection prematurely. Tuner said it was not apparantly running overly lean. Go figure.


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Damn Bisch I wish I could use the black. Mine keeps shutting down when ever I run the purple M7 and the guys at Venom don't have an answer for me so I just have to settle for the green
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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That is pretty hardcore



Originally Posted by Bisch
13.5 with a lot of wheel spin!! It is capable of much better with traction.

I run the black (a lot) with 19%, HAI, 400's, and other mods...

I can down-shift to fourth at about 70mph, romp the pedal, and roast the tires .

GTO's, Mushtangs, Carrera 4's, STI's, WRX's and so, so many more....wasted. And the funny part is seeing the looks on their faces . "what the f--- just happened?"
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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I've heard of a few others who have experienced similar situation with the Venom. Can't understand why they (Venom) don't have an answer I've double, tripled checked my wiring and they're perfect and my AF is between 11.5-12.5. It runs great unless I use anything over green. No error code from the Venom, just thrown codes in my ECU saying that there's low voltage in each of the injectors meaning they were being shut down by either the Venom or the Mini's controller.



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Ditto here. But I think I may be even using less than the green. Same thing happens from the first day of install. Control unit shuts down injection prematurely. Tuner said it was not apparantly running overly lean. Go figure.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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I think what needs to be checked, is the voltage coming out of the O2 sensor
and the injectors to see if there's a discreptancy from factory spec. The system is also very sensitive to proper ground. We have sold more then 125
of these systems and with a few exceptions, large nitrous nozzles are, and can be used without any problems. Feel free to call us to brainstorm IE. fix
this issue.

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
I've heard of a few others who have experienced similar situation with the Venom. Can't understand why they (Venom) don't have an answer I've double, tripled checked my wiring and they're perfect and my AF is between 11.5-12.5. It runs great unless I use anything over green. No error code from the Venom, just thrown codes in my ECU saying that there's low voltage in each of the injectors meaning they were being shut down by either the Venom or the Mini's controller.
will you keep us up to date on this please?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bisch
13.5 with a lot of wheel spin!! It is capable of much better with traction.

I run the black (a lot) with 19%, HAI, 400's, and other mods...

I can down-shift to fourth at about 70mph, romp the pedal, and roast the tires .

GTO's, Mushtangs, Carrera 4's, STI's, WRX's and so, so many more....wasted. And the funny part is seeing the looks on their faces . "what the f--- just happened?"
are you using the Venom kit?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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I'm going to do that next Peter. I'm getting intermitent error code P0420...catalyst efficiency below threshold. Is my Miltek cat headed south?
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I think what needs to be checked, is the voltage coming out of the O2 sensor
and the injectors to see if there's a discreptancy from factory spec. The system is also very sensitive to proper ground. We have sold more then 125
of these systems and with a few exceptions, large nitrous nozzles are, and can be used without any problems. Feel free to call us to brainstorm IE. fix
this issue.

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
I'm going to do that next Peter. I'm getting intermitent error code P0420...catalyst efficiency below threshold. Is my Miltek cat headed south?
I'm afraid that's the case, yes. In the UK, we have seen Miltek headers give up their cats at as little as 15-30K (they show EXACTLY the same code, P0420). It is a pain to change out as well, if possible at all without compromising the integrity of the header overall. That is why I went with the GT Tuning manifold which has an interchangeable cat. That or the MiniMadness one of course :smile: .

Sorry to hear about your problem

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 06:34 AM
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tell me it ain't so I thought something was up when I reved my motor hard a few months ago and found what appeared to be pieces of catalytic honeycomb laying a few feet behind my Mini
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I'm afraid that's the case, yes. In the UK, we have seen Miltek headers give up their cats at as little as 15-30K (they show EXACTLY the same code, P0420). It is a pain to change out as well, if possible at all without compromising the integrity of the header overall. That is why I went with the GT Tuning manifold which has an interchangeable cat. That or the MiniMadness one of course :smile: .

Sorry to hear about your problem

Henry
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bisch
13.5 with a lot of wheel spin!! It is capable of much better with traction.

I run the black (a lot) with 19%, HAI, 400's, and other mods...

I can down-shift to fourth at about 70mph, romp the pedal, and roast the tires .

GTO's, Mushtangs, Carrera 4's, STI's, WRX's and so, so many more....wasted. And the funny part is seeing the looks on their faces . "what the f--- just happened?"
That sounds like the power I am looking for. The black jet is that a 100 shot? Are you using a wet shot or dry shot setup?

I personally like this look on peoples faces when I pass them.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Milltek gone south

Originally Posted by supercoopers
I'm afraid that's the case, yes. In the UK, we have seen Miltek headers give up their cats at as little as 15-30K (they show EXACTLY the same code, P0420). It is a pain to change out as well, if possible at all without compromising the integrity of the header overall. That is why I went with the GT Tuning manifold which has an interchangeable cat. That or the MiniMadness one of course :smile: .

Sorry to hear about your problem

Henry
Alas, after eating three O2 Sensors, I am now getting the P0420 code as well, only now it's stopped being intermittent. :(
 
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