Kind of offtopic but what are the gains with that exhaust system. Ive never heard of Zoomers before. No mufflers seems a little strange, might sound like a fart cannon IMO. Didnt see any sound clips on the Exhaust Referance sticky. Anybody have any info...?

 

Actually I heard it from this mini that's owned by a Man named Kirk that's a salesman from Crevier and it sound pretty good and healthy, he has an 05 MCS with Dinan CAI, Stage 3 software, TB and the Zoomers exhaust. It's got alot of back pressure for top end I don't have any #'s . May their site might have something.

 

My MCS will arrive sometime the first week of AUG. Then I was told about a month after that I will have the Dinan installed on my Mini. Everything but the suspension upgrade due ot $$$ concerns. From what I am hearing it sounds like it really makes a huge diff. I just couldn't foot the bill for the JCW. I know it kicks some butt, howver the $$$ is just too much. I just couldn't drop 30k for a MINI. Of course I also couldn't afford it either...

 

I'm considering the Dinan as well for my next MINI. The S1 kit plus boost and TB. The thing I'm curious about the difference between Dinan and JCW are a few parts. Why does the JCW replace the cylinder head while Dinan doesn't yet the hp ratings are very close? Also the fuel regulators with the Dinan but not the JCW.

 

S1 plus boost and TB? Doesn't this put you into the S2 kit?

Well, JCW replaces the cylinder headfor two reasons, one of which people will tend to believe... If you are a JCW fan, then JCW is doing some minor polishing of the head to improve smoothness through the powerband, or if you are not a JCW fan, JCW replaces the CH to crank up the cost with no apparent bhp increase (albeit minor if there is). People typically fall into one of these two categories!

The fuel regulators, no one understands but Dinan. With the 15% pulley on the MCS, the car will still not run lean. This has been proven by many aftermarket companies along with individual dyno runs showing their A/F ratios. Why the regulators then? Some like the idea of having it, although new injectors would have been easier I think instead of digging into the fuel tank and engine bay, while others believe it was also used to crank up the cost. This will help pay for any defects along with giving the dealerships some added revenue for installation! I think the boost kit is retailing for what $8-900, for a pulley and regulator (1 in the tank and 1 up front in the engine bay)? So again, it depends on which side of the fence you fall on...

Make sense? Someone correct me if I am wrong...

 

Yea, its $900 for the pulley, belt, and fuel pressure regulator plus 60 labor units for installation. What does that labor actually come out to?


It seems like a lot and may or may not be needed but looks tempting when you consider the end result is basically the same as the JCW for a little more the half the cost.

 

is that '60 labor units' hours? cuz..that would suck!

 

I believe that the "labor units" are 1/10 of an hour, or 6 minutes.

 

r u kidding?

 

I thought it was 1 unit to 1 hour, so 6.0 hours to install. Which sounds about right when you consider you have to install the pulley, put the in tank fuel sending unit (drop the tank?), and then put the inline regulator inside the engine bay. So $900 for the kit and $690 for install (assuming $115/hour), total $1590... But then again, the dealership here in Arizona is an "authorized Dinan dealership." I spoke to the guys about it, "No questions asked" if anything were to go wrong with the pulley/regulator. This is nice, for a 'few' extra bucks, you have piece of mind... I am still having difficulty embracing this though...

 

I'll give them a call on Monday to find out. I would think they go by 15 minute increments but may be wrong.

 

I finally got it dyno-ed from my friends at Eurosport in Anaheim.The one thing that suprise Vic the tech was it doesn't seem to have a REV limiter. It just keep going. When he let off it was at 7200 RPM, and the result is that the car has 175.7HP at the wheels and 155.1TQ. I was asked if I know what the rev limit was and I said that I dont know. I know when I drive the car, when I down shift it pulls to your hearts content, and that when its satifying, able to chase down more powerful cars.

 

Just FYI per the Dinan site:

"...the software provides a 7300 rpm rev-limit..."

http://dinancars.com/Mini.asp?Series...0&Model=91#182

 

Even if the rev limit is at 7300 rpm on the second run, he went past it and didn't do anything (that stalling bog) that's why I said that it sounded like the motor was going to blow up, It scared me hearing the pitch sound started getting really high, maybe it's just me but it's still my car.

 

thx for that bit of info.

 

If the revs were not limited as advertised I would certainly contact Dinan. I'd also talk to that tech that ran it so high - doesnt seem like a good idea that he pushed it so far beyond the stock limit just because it could. By the way, if anything is damaged engine -wise at any point BMW/Mini usually checks the DME to see if there have been over-revs and can see how high a car has been revved.

 

As I drive the car today even when I get it close to the rev limit at 1st and 2nd it's alot free-er now, the throttle seem to open up alot more than before or is it I just, now know it's limit!! STILL HAPPY or is it more HAPPIER!!

 

That's right folks I'm picking up my MCS this Saturday and I was told that I could get the Dinan installed in three months. My dealer is Baron in Kansas City. They are a authorized Dinan dealer. I believe that I was told the whole thing with the install will run my around $4000 or something. It's been awhile since I have spoke about it. I'm getting all of the go -fast goodies but I couldn't afford the suspension upgrades, at least not as of right now. The great thing is that it's fully covered and it also gets you the same effects as the JCW for less money. This way I won't lose my warranty or have to order a bunch of after market parts then either "try" to put them on myself, or pay someone else to. Which I would imagine would be very costly. I certainly will post my opinions on the upgrade once I have it installed. Also, since I will be ahaving to wait three months this will give me a chance to get to know my car before it's transformation so I will be able to tell if in fact it has made a difference in the cars performance and how much....

 

Sounds like a good plan, be sure to let us know what you think. You could also save some money by doing the airbox and exhaust and throttle body yourself, thats what I'm planning on doing.

 

Lemme start by saying....Im a Dinan Rep.......For teh guys looking into both kits just figure it this way.......A Dinan package installed ( CAI,TB,EXh,boost kit and software ) is $3800 as mentioned b4......as for the JCW kits which go for over 6k you cant compare in pricing...

We have a fully built Dinan mini which i race in SCCA and take it on the street from time to time and i have run JCW cars and pull right by em with ease.

Yes...i do agree with the added regulators not being needed being were only running a 15% pulley like everyone else is ( JCW is abt 14.7% ) as you all know owning a pulley your mixture is fine. The main reason on JCW swapping the SC out , is b/c of the issue of pulling the shaft out from the SC and causing damage. I have even talked with my guy over at ProMINI ( Anthony ) that even the 19% doesnt require software either but just a cooler plug and a ignition is a plus.

In the end you can beat the DINAN system at all if you have a c...ar under warranty and worried about losing it once you do that first mod by yanking your pulley off with an underdrive one. He even goes by saying that in the 3-4yrs of these cars being out he nor i ( at my dealer ) have heard of anyone doing damage with bolt on parts that everyones mentions in here now.

For everyone worried about belts flying off and hearing about them breaking is b/c either they didnt put the pulley on all the way or there running a cheap or old belt......They have never had an issue with a belt coming off nor should it being your putting a smaller diamater pulley on. Belts only fly off on SC if there is waaaaaaaay to much RPM ( which our care arent doin ) to were the belt tensioner is not stable enough to handle the added rpms which it wasnt intended for.

its common logic that just b/c your spinning the internals of a SC faster ( I.E a pulley ) the outer belt system isnt seeing added speed.

In the end im sure i havent said anything that you guys dont already know and has been said b4, so ill shut up now....

www.dinancars.com is the website for the one asking for more info on our products.

 

So you work for Dinan? What's next...intercooler, wheels?

 

I think they're working on cams!

 

how would u compare ur rear bar w/d competition and ur bushings will they need 2b lubed?

 

 

im a noob to these sites.....What are you askin Joker, cuz i dont understand the abbrevations yet? sorry