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Drivetrain GIAC/pulley/intake question for non-modded dumby

Old May 24, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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GIAC/pulley/intake question for non-modded dumby

Please be patient with my inexperience.

First, what does GIAC actually stand for?

Second, I'm looking to do my first mod to my '03 MCS (yes, I've waited this long!!!:smile I can't go too crazy with cash, and would like to avoid making Gryffon too loud in the process. So though I am considering the options between an ALTA intake and doing a 17% reduction, I wanted to make certain that I wouldn't be running the engine too lean without either an intake or GIAC if I ONLY do the pulley. If I understand correctly, the MCS runs rich to begin with?

I know the pulley would give me far more oomph than the intake, but can I safely do it without other mods to help feed the engine air?
 
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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Miniature
First, what does GIAC actually stand for?

Second, I'm looking to do my first mod to my '03 MCS (yes, I've waited this long!!!:smile I can't go too crazy with cash, and would like to avoid making Gryffon too loud in the process. So though I am considering the options between an ALTA intake and doing a 17% reduction, I wanted to make certain that I wouldn't be running the engine too lean without either an intake or GIAC if I ONLY do the pulley. If I understand correctly, the MCS runs rich to begin with?

I know the pulley would give me far more oomph than the intake, but can I safely do it without other mods to help feed the engine air?
Miniature,
1. GIAC stands for - not sure- email them and ask.
http://www.giacusa.com/about_giac.php
GIAC has 15 years experience doing ECU tuning for many european cars and has a strong reputation for quality.

First mod? Certainly an intake is easy enough. Alta adds to the intake noise so go for a ride in another MCS with the alta intake before you decide. Other possible intakes that are less costly and not too loud are- RDR, Pilo, Maddness, any drop in filter, etc.

Another good first mod is an adjustable rear swaybar.

17% pulley? Why 17% as opposed to 15% or 19%? Most times MINIs are going to run rich and as long as you don't keep running your engine at redline you should be fine.

Usually a smaller pulley belt is used with a 17% reduction pulley. Any pulley upgrade from 15% to 19% can be done alone without intake, exhaust, or ECU upgrades. The benefits may be muted a bit.

Overall you'll do best when thinking about your ultimate goals for upgrading and how you'll reach that. For example it's common to upgrade ECU after a pulley upgrade so what will you do with your 17% pulley? Leave the ECU stock or upgrade the ECU? If leaving the ECU stock then fine. If upgrading ECU then one path is GIAC for 17% and larger fuel injectors and another path is a different ECU upgrade and tune it (adding larger injectors, APEXI-APC to control air/fuel ratios, trying different software MAPS) or even a add a crank pulley.
 
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Old May 25, 2005 | 04:51 AM
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My first motor mod was the 15% Mini Mania pulley. I chose it because it was black and not immediately recognizable as non-stock. It made a big difference. As you see in my sig I've since gone a little further.


If I had, say, $600 to spend I would do 19%, crank pulley and VGS mod. You'll be amazed.
 
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