lets try this thread to discuss various product claims by vendors or others and the credibility/validity/proveability and the need for same.

 

GRS has posted testing results from their intercooler that demonstrate it doing a better job than stock:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...7&postcount=27

I haven't seen any other intercooler manufacturers/vendors do the same, nor have I seen any enthusiasts post similar testing results comparing stock to aftermarket intercoolers.

 

i'm all for calling out unsubstantiated vendor claims, but i'm not sure that doing it in a separate thread is the best way.

why not just continue to comment in the thread about the particular product? that way someone reading about the item will get all the comments in one place.

"physics? we don't need no stinking physics..."

 

this ought to be interesting.... finally the truth about advertising and "claims" of the crank HP crowd w/0 dyno sheets.....

 

It seems there are plenty of people willing to buy products that have:

1) No data whatsoever to support performance claims (i.e. Mini-Mania's new intercooler)

2) Data that is contradictory to independent enthusiast tests (i.e. Magnaflow exhaust)

3) Realistic data that shows measurable improvement in performance.

From a manufacturer/vendor standpoint, 1 is the easiest, followed by 2, followed by 3. If it doesn't make a difference for sales, it could be tough for a manufacturer to justify the presentation of test results, let alone testing at all.