Drivetrain Official 3rd Gen Dyno Thread
#26
Just for the record, we think the Torque reading on this DynoJet is reading a little bit off. As much as we would like to claim the 373WTQE since it's our tune, our map is only targeting around 400NM (or roughly 295 to 300 ft-lb of torque). The "delta" in HP and Torque are in line with our testing results.
Stage-1 Gains: +45 to +57 WHP / +60 to +78 WTQE
Stage-1 Gains: +45 to +57 WHP / +60 to +78 WTQE
Always tune instead of piggybacking.
Last edited by johntotah94; 10-23-2017 at 09:00 PM. Reason: typo
#27
New Motor, New Tuner!
Evolve Tune on Fully Stock Car (Apart from muffler delete).
**These figures are with California 91 Octane Fuel on a DynoJet"
Stock Run: 203whp 215wtq
Evolve Run: 249whp 366wtq
Gained 46whp 151wtq
Insane gains in torque! Same dyno day and everything, just map switched in between the runs with my laptop. Torque was 351 then 355 then 366 (which was the best run).
Evolve Tune on Fully Stock Car (Apart from muffler delete).
**These figures are with California 91 Octane Fuel on a DynoJet"
Stock Run: 203whp 215wtq
Evolve Run: 249whp 366wtq
Gained 46whp 151wtq
Insane gains in torque! Same dyno day and everything, just map switched in between the runs with my laptop. Torque was 351 then 355 then 366 (which was the best run).
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phantasms (01-10-2018)
#29
5th Gear
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John- insane numbers!! Congrats. I thought your results must be a fluke and looked up Evolve... looks like about what they've been getting with other cars. Amazing. Lots of questions... biggest one- how much boost? And any idea how they are making so much more power than anyone else? And could that possibly be safe? Hah.
#31
^Yea, I'd like to know too. And why switched to Evolve? Do they have a long track record with BMW engines or something? I saw their M5 destroy a bunch of cars in the half mile race on youtube. What are the levels of boost their tune is pushing? Is it safe is the ultimate question I guess?
#32
Custom Dyno tune with Airtec IC
Custom Dyno Tune, Stage-1 with Airtec intercooler and NGK one-step colder plugs, 93 Octane gas.
With Dealer JCW Kit: 206 WHP | 224 WTQE
Stage-1 Bytetronik Tune: 240 WHP (273 BHP) | 298 WTQE
Gained: +34 WHP & 74 WTQE
F55 S with JCW Kit; Custom Dyno Tune with Airtec IC + NGK 8C8S Plugs; 93 Octane
With Dealer JCW Kit: 206 WHP | 224 WTQE
Stage-1 Bytetronik Tune: 240 WHP (273 BHP) | 298 WTQE
Gained: +34 WHP & 74 WTQE
F55 S with JCW Kit; Custom Dyno Tune with Airtec IC + NGK 8C8S Plugs; 93 Octane
#33
#34
Got quite a few requests from customers who are interested in a "JCW-like" tune... so here is a comparison of the power levels between 3 maps:
Stock JCW: 180 WHP ; 201 WTQ
JCW+ Map: 213 WHP ; 235 WTQ
BT Stage-1: 235 WHP (284 BHP); 289 WTQ (350 ETQ = Engine Torque)
(Gains over stock: +55WHP | +88WTQ)
- Solid line = Factory JCW Tune
- Second dotted line = Bytetronik's JCW+ tune
- Third line (scatter line) = Bytronik Stage-1 Flash
Stock JCW: 180 WHP ; 201 WTQ
JCW+ Map: 213 WHP ; 235 WTQ
BT Stage-1: 235 WHP (284 BHP); 289 WTQ (350 ETQ = Engine Torque)
(Gains over stock: +55WHP | +88WTQ)
#35
#37
2016 Auto JCW with Forged IC & Milltek Sprot CAT
Custom dyno tuned this vehicle; the car came in with all the parts already installed so the 'baseline pull' was already 25WHP above a stock JCW.
Stock JCW Map: 211 WHP ; 229 WTQ
BT Stage-2: 239 WHP (289 BHP); 305 WTQ (371 ETQ = Engine Torque)
(Gains over stock: +28WHP | +76WTQ)
Peak torque at around 2700 RPM
- Solid line = Factory JCW Tune (with Forged IC & Milltek Sports CAT)
- Dotted line = Bytetronik's dyno tune (with Forged IC & Milltek Sport CAT)
Stock JCW Map: 211 WHP ; 229 WTQ
BT Stage-2: 239 WHP (289 BHP); 305 WTQ (371 ETQ = Engine Torque)
(Gains over stock: +28WHP | +76WTQ)
Peak torque at around 2700 RPM
#38
2015-S Manual, flashed through OBD2 port
This vehicle was flashed through the OBD2 port without opening the ECU:
2015-S Manual tested in MD AWD Dyno in all-wheel drive mode;
Mods added: Stage-1 Custom Tune with NGK one-step colder plugs; AFe drop-in filter; 93 Octane Chevron
Stock Map: 206 WHP ; 232 WTQE
BT Stage-1: 247 WHP (298 BHP); 322 WTQE (392 ETQ = Engine Torque)
(Gains over stock: +41WHP | +90WTQ)
2015-S Manual tested in MD AWD Dyno in all-wheel drive mode;
Mods added: Stage-1 Custom Tune with NGK one-step colder plugs; AFe drop-in filter; 93 Octane Chevron
Stock Map: 206 WHP ; 232 WTQE
BT Stage-1: 247 WHP (298 BHP); 322 WTQE (392 ETQ = Engine Torque)
(Gains over stock: +41WHP | +90WTQ)
#41
284whp/318wtq
Engine+trans mods:
Current setup:
-K&N Typhoon intake
-Miltek Catless 3 inch downpipe
-John Cooper Works Pro Valvetronic catback system
-Custom mid pipe w/2nd cat and resonator deleted
-ECS tuning 4 inch exhaust tips
-RPM Power tune (Stage 2)
-FTP Charge pipe
-FTP Boost pipe
-FTP Intake hard pipe
-Forge stepped front mount intercooler
-Powerflex Lower race polyurethane engine mount
-JMTC Kevlar Stage 3 Clutch
-JMTC 30% Pressure plate
-JMTC Single Mass Flywheel
-Wavetrac ATB differential
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J_L (05-18-2019)
#42
#43
F56 Cooper S Tuning +300bhp
- F56 Cooper S 2015
- Milltek De-cat Downpipe, Forge Motorsport Intercooler, NGK Iridium Spark Plugs (Heat Range Rating 8), GruppeM Carbon Intake & JCW Tuning Kit incl. JCW Pro Exhaust.
- Dyno used was a Dynomet Inerti (comparable in readings to Dynolog, 8-10% lower than Dynojet, not as "bad" as mustang dyno)
- 4th gear was used
- Best stock reading was 228bhp and 325Nm (239 ft lb) with upgrades before tuning, I don't know what it made before the upgrades, Mini claim 210bhp with the JCW Tuning Kit.
- Result 301bhp and 415Nm (306 ft lb)
I have ordered Helix Clutch and Single Mass Flywheel to get the last few pounds of boost out of the turbo, OEM clutch won't handle more than this.
I will update the post once it has been back on the dyno with the new clutch and flywheel.
- Milltek De-cat Downpipe, Forge Motorsport Intercooler, NGK Iridium Spark Plugs (Heat Range Rating 8), GruppeM Carbon Intake & JCW Tuning Kit incl. JCW Pro Exhaust.
- Dyno used was a Dynomet Inerti (comparable in readings to Dynolog, 8-10% lower than Dynojet, not as "bad" as mustang dyno)
- 4th gear was used
- Best stock reading was 228bhp and 325Nm (239 ft lb) with upgrades before tuning, I don't know what it made before the upgrades, Mini claim 210bhp with the JCW Tuning Kit.
- Result 301bhp and 415Nm (306 ft lb)
I have ordered Helix Clutch and Single Mass Flywheel to get the last few pounds of boost out of the turbo, OEM clutch won't handle more than this.
I will update the post once it has been back on the dyno with the new clutch and flywheel.
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J_L (10-05-2019)
#46
- F56 Cooper S 2015
- Milltek De-cat Downpipe, Forge Motorsport Intercooler, NGK Iridium Spark Plugs (Heat Range Rating 8), GruppeM Carbon Intake & JCW Tuning Kit incl. JCW Pro Exhaust.
- Dyno used was a Dynomet Inerti (comparable in readings to Dynolog, 8-10% lower than Dynojet, not as "bad" as mustang dyno)
- 4th gear was used
- Best stock reading was 228bhp and 325Nm (239 ft lb) with upgrades before tuning, I don't know what it made before the upgrades, Mini claim 210bhp with the JCW Tuning Kit.
- Result 301bhp and 415Nm (306 ft lb)
I have ordered Helix Clutch and Single Mass Flywheel to get the last few pounds of boost out of the turbo, OEM clutch won't handle more than this.
I will update the post once it has been back on the dyno with the new clutch and flywheel.
- Milltek De-cat Downpipe, Forge Motorsport Intercooler, NGK Iridium Spark Plugs (Heat Range Rating 8), GruppeM Carbon Intake & JCW Tuning Kit incl. JCW Pro Exhaust.
- Dyno used was a Dynomet Inerti (comparable in readings to Dynolog, 8-10% lower than Dynojet, not as "bad" as mustang dyno)
- 4th gear was used
- Best stock reading was 228bhp and 325Nm (239 ft lb) with upgrades before tuning, I don't know what it made before the upgrades, Mini claim 210bhp with the JCW Tuning Kit.
- Result 301bhp and 415Nm (306 ft lb)
I have ordered Helix Clutch and Single Mass Flywheel to get the last few pounds of boost out of the turbo, OEM clutch won't handle more than this.
I will update the post once it has been back on the dyno with the new clutch and flywheel.
#47
Thanks!
Clutch is OK for now. Haven't experienced any problems so far, but I've only driven about 500 miles on the setup so far.
But in order to be able to use the last amount of HP/TQ I need a better/stronger clutch, I've ordered the Helix Clutch and Single Mass Flywheel, Helix clutch is rated to 368 lb ft.
I think we might be able to get 20-30 more HP and 35-40 more lb ft once clutch has been replaced.
Spark plugs. Tbf, I haven't done anything besides change the stock plugs for NGK High Performance Spark Plugs which has a heat range rating of 8.
Clutch is OK for now. Haven't experienced any problems so far, but I've only driven about 500 miles on the setup so far.
But in order to be able to use the last amount of HP/TQ I need a better/stronger clutch, I've ordered the Helix Clutch and Single Mass Flywheel, Helix clutch is rated to 368 lb ft.
I think we might be able to get 20-30 more HP and 35-40 more lb ft once clutch has been replaced.
Spark plugs. Tbf, I haven't done anything besides change the stock plugs for NGK High Performance Spark Plugs which has a heat range rating of 8.
#48
Thanks!
Clutch is OK for now. Haven't experienced any problems so far, but I've only driven about 500 miles on the setup so far.
But in order to be able to use the last amount of HP/TQ I need a better/stronger clutch, I've ordered the Helix Clutch and Single Mass Flywheel, Helix clutch is rated to 368 lb ft.
I think we might be able to get 20-30 more HP and 35-40 more lb ft once clutch has been replaced.
Spark plugs. Tbf, I haven't done anything besides change the stock plugs for NGK High Performance Spark Plugs which has a heat range rating of 8.
Clutch is OK for now. Haven't experienced any problems so far, but I've only driven about 500 miles on the setup so far.
But in order to be able to use the last amount of HP/TQ I need a better/stronger clutch, I've ordered the Helix Clutch and Single Mass Flywheel, Helix clutch is rated to 368 lb ft.
I think we might be able to get 20-30 more HP and 35-40 more lb ft once clutch has been replaced.
Spark plugs. Tbf, I haven't done anything besides change the stock plugs for NGK High Performance Spark Plugs which has a heat range rating of 8.
Ah, I bought colder plugs too but wasn't sure if I should keep them at their pre-set gap (0.30) or change. Just sitting there waiting for me to install.
#49
5th Gear
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My clutch is slipping a bit, I think. At around 3k RPM when it hits around 20 psi, even in 3rd gear. 2014 S, RPM stage 1, Wagner IC, JWC Pro exhaust. A big difference was the Wagner, hadn't noticed the slip before that went in. Interested in a tune that keeps boost a bit lower at lower RPMs, but stays level or even increases as revs build. I miss VTEC, what can I say...
#50
I haven't felt any slipping of the clutch yet, but I will admit that I haven't pushed it in 5th & 6th gear at "low" highway speeds, I don't feel like torturing my car just to feel the clutch slipping.
Although, I am looking forward to bumping up the boost a bit once the new clutch has been installed.
Although, I am looking forward to bumping up the boost a bit once the new clutch has been installed.