What would be the cheapest way to reach 200HP (or close to) and relatively high TQ numbers (180-190, possible?)? I was thinking maybe Pulley, Intake, Computer Software would do the trick..Or would you have to add in an exhaust to the mix?

 

one word.... NITROUS

 

haha, without blowing the engine of course...

 

wow... the mini crowd is sure negative to the juice
I guess it all depends if you want that power full time or just for short bursts.. but nitrous for the bursts is best $ for $ that you will find.... period

 

200 hp is attainable most cost effective is probably pulley and chip, it's probably close... you can add intake and exhaust but those add little gains... pulley and ecu gets you 180 (close enough anyways)

 

yeah close enough...yeah and NOS isn't good...it only provides power in short burts, most people want their power full time...which is why they are negative to nitrous...

 

Get a 100% reduction pulley. It is really, really fast, and also light weight. Save a few pounds.

 

Ya, and the supercharger SCREAMS

 

100%? :smile:

 

Honestly, it depends if your car is a dogg to begin with. I've been working on this JCW, and pulling my hair out just trying to get it up to advertised power has been more work than I had anticipated. The car totally refuses to make 200 cHP no matter what I throw at it, short of 100 Octane and/or N02.

Let's just assume your MCS is average out of the box and average in reaction to mods. A 15% pulley with ALTA intake and Milltek cat-back with a #5 or #9 UNIchip map will yield about 195-205 cHP near redline. The torque curve for the rest of the band will strictly be a function of your MINI. Hotter MINI's will score upwards of 215 chp peak, and dogg MCS's will struggle to make 190 chp peak. This is what I've been finding out lately.

Hope that helps,
Ryan

 

Ryan don't use cHP... for us CA folks CHP in rearview = hello ticket :-)

Same thing with most cars though. My M coupe dyno'd at 222.3 wheel hp bone stock while another one <40 cars away on the production line did 208 wheel hp same dyno back to back runs.

Patrick

 

222 whp is very impressive! My S52 M roadster dyno'd at 218 whp only What year is yours? Mine is a 00'. Are you also a member of the bimmerforums?

 

My coupe is a '99 delivered 9/98. Since it was an early build I even got a torsen diff :-)

Now though it has a Dinan s/c so I think the 222hp/lb-ft figure is a bit out of date

I do roadfly not bimmerforums. I probably had an account on BF but they weren't around when I got the coupe. Plus the coupe fourm on roadfly is just AWESOME as the people there really know their stuff.

Did you get my e-mail about the white wheels?

Patrick

 

Say bye-bye to parasitic drag! Just think of all the power you'll free up just by dumping the s/c alone!

Seriously, a 19% pulley and HAI should pretty much do the trick, at least on *some* dynoes.

Marty

 

Bungle should be posting the results from the Providence, RI Dyno Day at Yarrow Sports anytime now. There was only one stock MCS of the 15 or so cars run. The stock MCS generated 162.3 hp (good baseline). The individual dyno sheets will have the mods listed for each car. It ought to be very interesting. FWIW my '04 MCS with an Alta CAI, Alta 15% pulley, Milltek catback and the Webb Motorsports custom Unichip v5 pulled 199.7 hp at the crank.


Cheers,

 

Hey Ethereal,

Check out the Venom Nitrous Kit through M7. It's a safe way to deliver Nitrous without burst of it like in "The Fast and the Furious". It's programable to mix a certain amount (to your liking)with your gas. Talk to Randy at M7, If you want to go the NOS way.
Lagston

 

19% pulley, exhaust and intake will do it. More importantly, by going 19% you'll have more torque at 200hp than any other (and more expensive) mod combination. The above will cost about $1400 installed. You could always save $200 or more by skipping the intake.

Soon a 19% pulley and GIAC ECU would be the perfect way to go - and that'll keep you well under $1k! THe torque gains on that will be killer!

If you don't want to wait a few more weeks and $725 total sounds good to you, I'd get the 15% pulley and the GIAC ECU. That's probably double to triple the bang for the buck of any other mod combo available right now.

That's not surprising. Helix has dynoed several JCW MINIs and so far all of them have been woefully short of 200hp. Their dyno is conservative, however.

 

haha..good one..

 

Where are there numbers for the GIAC?? I have the UNichip and the difference is very noticable on the butt dyno

 

Check the thread in Performance:Drivetrain titled GIACs available and set your eyes on that fat freaking torque gain.

Whoops. Gotta go change my shorts.

M

 

Well, i don't have an S yet and won't have one for another 7 months, so i'm sure a better chip will come out that i can just use 19% and chip to pull 200 off it...Just curious as to how much i have to save..hehe Thanks for the input you all have been very helpful..

Anyone with MTH and a 19% have any input? Cuz that's the cheapest route by far as of now...

 

I have a Dinan CAI, Webb Unichip, Borla exhaust, Alta 15% and I am looking for the next incremental power boost. Some have suggested a Dinan throttle body. Am I at diminishing returns?

 

get schrick cams...

 

YES.

 

Pick-your-pulley-size with a UNIchip Custom mapping would be most advantageous. The results would be more consistent from car to car, instead of cookie-cutter mapping.

--->SpiderX; it's all relative. If the cost of a camshaft + install is reasonable to you, then the point of deminishing returns is still a few components away.