http://www.dinancars.com/Mini.asp?Se...is=40&Model=91

 

$299 for the Dinan software.. It's about time for a more reasonably priced performance engine software. Perhaps this will force the hands of the others out there to bring their prices down to earth.

Where's the GIAC version?

The exhaust looks interesting....Looks as though it's simply a cut in the factory cat-back piping where it heads towards the stock resonator. Bet that would drown-out my Magnaflow :smile:

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His, Chile RED over, Madness intake, Magnaflow exhaust, Helix 15% Pulley & RDR Swaybar
Hers, Electric Blue / Union Jack on top and BONE Stock

 

19 hp (flywheel) for $1700? yeah....okayI got that for $650 installed (pulley + intake)

Can't wait for those heavy 18 inch wheels to come out Dinan

 

So about $600 for 18 more horsepower when you include the software and intake/filter unit, that sounds reasonable doesn't it?

 

Well this makes no sense. The ECU supposedly makes 9lbs of torque ALONE, yet the addition of the intake, exhaust AND ECU only make 6lbs of torque - and at the flywheel at that! Sounds like garbage to me...so far...

 

that intake filter looks a lot like the kn ru-1520 (to 1550).

well, at least the design does anyway.

time for me to try putting the old airbox assembly, and modifying the airbox.

 

Ugh. I was really hoping they'd come out with something that would compete effectively with JCW. This competes with... me putting in the three easiest-to-install parts: exhaust, air flow, ECU.

 

It says 49 state emissions legal. I'm assuming the 50th state where it's not legal is CA? Does anyone know?

 

You need to look at the rpms for the torque figures:

The ECU provides peak torque GAIN of 9 lb/ft @ 7000 rpms. The peak torque of the kit is 161 lb/ft @ 4500 rpms while stock makes 155 lb/ft @ 4000 rpms.

 

My exact thought

Earl

 

As many know, I've done my share of ripping on Dinan here, and mostly on MINI2. I've done so while trying to be objective and understanding. And while I agree with much of what has been said above, it would be easy to continue with the rant, but I'd like to take notice to a couple positives:

Their intake, incorporating a stock-like box, is most likely the coolest, literally, on the mkt. For those other CAI's, this one is most certainly to be the best at blocking-out the engine bay heat. But as we all know from Andy's HAI project, that is not the only factor is creating more power for our MCS. For those who want the coolest air, this one is bound to have it...

At the opposite end, I dig the weight reduction of the exhaust, and the idea of the weight being opposite the driver, a al Alta and the QS. The stock weight at 36 pounds seems low though... And, did I see pressure deltas provided? Would that not be a first? Do they not cover the battery box with the stock shielding afterwards?

Who is the unlucky state... "49 State Emission Legal?" Usually that is us in CA, but since Dinan is a CA-based company located minutes from my home, I would guess not. Maybe Hawaii....

I find it easy to say the unfavorable, but wanted to point-out some positives....

 

Somehow I expected more from Dinan. I mean they've only been developing this for two plus years, and none of their products seems all that inspired.

 

Most Bimmer fans I know think that Dinan stuff is always overpriced and underperforming. The only advantage is you can get warranty service at the dealers who install Dinan. It's looking like this will be the same with the Dinan/MINI parts.

 

But wouldn't it be ironic if it was CA

 

7000RPMs! The stock S doesn't even go to 7000 RPMS! So how can there be a torque gain of 9lbs at 7000 RPMS!

 

I was underwhelmed by the Dinan package when I read this release.

As far as 7k redline is concerned, I'm sure the ECU remap removes the rev limiter as it does on most BMW applications.

2 years in development and only 49 state legal? It is probably the CARB requirements that held back release on their product and most likely, it did not pass CARB. If they didn't pass, it is most likely a very protracted process to get certified. So, they probably just released the product since they were behind the 8 ball on MINI products. That is why it is a 49 state product. It surely can't be Hawaii since we don't have emission testing. That's how I was able to run a stroked 3.7 euro motored 635 on the road without any cats.

Now, we just have to wait and see if Dinan will come out with a pulley kit for the MCS. That will most likely be a S2 or S3 package. The only obstacle I can see is Dinan is wary about giving a warranty on a pulley'd car, so that is why the pulley is not out. Plus, the addition of a pulley may not be CARB legal.

 

Yes. The article actually says that. My point was how can Dinan say that their ECU increase torque by 9lbs at 7k RPM if the stock ECU doesn't allow 7k RPMs and therefore you can't measure it???? See?

 

You sure you can't get your MCS to do 7k? When I had mine the rev limiter kicked in a little after 7k, or perhaps Dinan removed the rev limiter to do their comparo.

 

Dinan's site says their ECU software raises the rev limit 300 rpm to 7300 rpm, so their test vehicle must have gone to 7000 rpm when stock.

 

Cool. Thanks for clearing that up. I guess they had to raise the stock rev limiter just to get a comparison torque gain, huh?

 

Nice intake. Now just need to see what JCW comes up on this front. I hope it's equally well executed, and not another of the ubiquitous junior-high-metal-shop specials.

 

OK, so Dinan has been developing their MINI S1 kit for what, like, 3 years now and now that it’s almost done, their site has the audacity to mention that the deck lid badge is under development?!

Like someone couldn’t have been working on that and the still-to-come strut brace at the same time somebody else was doing the tuner parts? It frustrates me that there are so many things we’re promised are coming and, in the end, they’re all mostly disappointments.

Pardon me for not being impressed....

 

I questioned this as well. Everything online says that the stock limit is 6750 (6950 for the works kit.) If this is the case then their assertion is meaningless.

If they can demonstrate meaningful gains at the stock limit or below that would be nice. On the whole the entire announcement is a yawner. Three years to come out with a bunch of copycat products and they can't even keep their power claims straight (the $1600 "kit" and the exhaust both claim the same peak power and torque of 182/161.)

The only interesting bit of tech is their discussion about pressure testing the intake, and their (relative to the rest of the field) unique solution to the problem.

So who's buying?

Jeff

 

I definitely want to upgrade the intake on my Works S and will seriously consider the Dinan unit but, like I said, want to see JCW's version before I pull the trigger. Irrational, I guess, but I kind of like the idea of keeping my mods all JCW, if possible.

 

I like the air filter conversion. The exhaust looks like the one-ball conversion that some people have been doing for a while.