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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 08:22 AM
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Hybrid Turbo

I finally got my hybrid turbo from GPOP. Had internal components swapped to a K04. I am still waiting for the pistons from Carillo.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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Who is GPOP?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 01:21 PM
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www.gpopshop.com

They are a well known company who modifies and rebuilds turbos
 
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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i normally dont drive too hard. i was only going 60 mph on the freeway when i noticed white smoke from my exhaust. when i got off the exit i heard a pop and that was all she wrote.

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interesting thread.
how hard do you drive the car?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2012 | 07:04 PM
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Please take that stupid noise maker off your firewall before you reinstall the engine. Other than that I hate that your engine blew but, I am glad to see how you are improving things under the hood.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2012 | 09:53 PM
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I am in the same boat,I just found out my 2nd cycle is gone.I am running stage 3 map with alta intercooler,dp,exhaust,intake,alta turbo.I try to buy ause engine,3000 plus labor,so fu&k up.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:00 AM
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yeah sorry to hear about your ride. pm me if you have any questions. i am hoping to get my car back in a couple of weeks.

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I am in the same boat,I just found out my 2nd cycle is gone.I am running stage 3 map with alta intercooler,dp,exhaust,intake,alta turbo.I try to buy ause engine,3000 plus labor,so fu&k up.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:06 PM
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You're screewwwwwwwwed

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okk, now im scared...
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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I believe we are living at the bay area,I try to build my engine too.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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Seems like the "Stage" tunes are having issues(not a "stage" tune)... i am surprised mine hasnt blown yet*. 46k and have been boosting 20psi since 12k. I also drive the heart out of the car. I am wondering when my time is due lol!
 
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fupac133
I finally got my hybrid turbo from GPOP. Had internal components swapped to a K04. I am still waiting for the pistons from Carillo.

Refresh my memory. Does a "K04" change mean a different turbine and compressor wheel with the associated housings? If not, could you detail what exactly changes on the turbine and compressor side? I remember people trying K04/K03 hybrid turbos a while back but then they ran off because of tuning issues. Good thing it's 2012 now and tuning is much easier.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fupac133
Oil build up on intake valves. Engine is completely stripped waiting for the rods and pistons and turbo


What is that picture of with all the carbon on it?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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K04 hybrid means stock turbine wheel (which is fine and plentiful), but larger compressor wheel.

So, same exhaust housing/turbine wheel, but machined compressor housing and larger wheel..



Allows for more airflow, aka more powah
 
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 03:05 PM
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Thanks for the clarification.

I thought about dodging the big power upgrades for my R56 until my wife told me she loves the MINI so much I'm not allowed to sell it for something else. So i'll be watching this discussion and Evolve Automotive's hybrid turbo project very closely
 
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Old Aug 19, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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Has anyone running a water meth kit cooked a piston yet?

Has anyone with a proper catch can torched one either?

Be interested to know.. I'm all for mitigating risks.. and I'm betting that without the carbon buildup and lower temps associated with the meth kits.. there arent going to be any failures.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 01:43 PM
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Water meth helps but, an OCC is kinda meh on preventing a melted piston.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by countryboyshane
If you're pushing 20+psi of boost on stock internals you'll eventually get the pistons very upset even if you have a FMIC. It's only a matter of time and how tolerant your particular engine is of the extra cylinder pressure.
i feel for you mate. i had the same problem. blew a piston ringland on cyl 3. $9000 for a brand new stock engine

was tuned and had all the supporting mods, DP, FMIC, OCC etc.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 04:52 PM
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i feel for you mate. i had the same problem. blew a piston ringland on cyl 3. $9000 for a brand new stock engine

was tuned and had all the supporting mods, DP, FMIC, OCC etc.
Why did you buy a new engine for a blown ring? You could have just honed the block and replaced the ring.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 09:50 PM
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here is the pic of my engine bored and honed along with a shot of carillo pistons. its getting closer. i am hoping to get the car back in september
 
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 10:07 PM
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I am jealous it is going to run so good.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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i am crossing my fingers on that.

Originally Posted by Porthos
I am jealous it is going to run so good.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by fupac133
here is the pic of my carillo pistons. its getting closer. i am hoping to get the car back in september
I am hoping it's just a bad reflection in the image: but I don't see a valve relief step for the exhaust valves, nor do I see a wall guide for combustion control, just for my curiosity could you confirm that your selected pistons have these, and do resemble the factory stock pistons ?
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 06:43 AM
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Yea those crowns do look very different compared to the stock Mahle pistons. The Mahle pistons have a small bowl in the center almost like piston used in a diesel engine to swirl the fuel being directly injected into the combustion chamber. This is to control the flame propagation and dissipate heat equally in the cylinder. I wonder why Carillo didn't implement this feature in their piston crowns? The bowl on these look no different than a manifold fuel injection engine.

I don't like it.

I would start asking questions about their testing and findings.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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That's the first time I've seen the CP piston and it does seem odd. I believe the CP piston was based off the MCS 10.4:1 piston and was brought down to 9.5:1. Possible they assumed it was a normal piston and simply left the cup out. I'm not sure who was involved in the design, I just know it was available after Hubie had the rods spec'd. The JE pistons Hubie spec'd out have the corrected cup for the DI.

JE piston pic borrowed from "mrrjm" build thread
 
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Porthos
Why did you buy a new engine for a blown ring? You could have just honed the block and replaced the ring.

I live in Australia and the city I am in has no where that can do that. I couldn't even get my hands on a 2nd hand motor. I tried all my options and that was sadly the quickest and cheapest option.
 
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