Dealers are always trying to blame the aftermarket stuff. I've been an installer for 10 years, and I see it all the time. I've seen a situation where I did a remote start in an explorer, and It kept having all these air bag lights and random electrical problems. The dealer naturally called my shop to come check everything out and I couldn't find anything wrong with any remote start related wiring. Turns out there were bad factory grounds, a bad airbag module, etc. Well, the customer got to the point that he didn't want the car anymore bacause it was in the shop so often, but Ford wouldn't buy it back because it did not have a Ford branded remote start in it. I think in the end, everything got fixed, and the customer was happy, but manufacturers, love to deny warranty work when aftermarket stuff is involved.

 

Fine, I understand you want to know what happened to his car, but it's none of your business to call the dealership HIS car is at to ask information about HIS car. It's not your car and it's not your problem. Lets let the owner of the car tell us what the problem is.

It's called courtesy, and you've proven you don't know what that means.

 

Back to the original problem.....what to do? The answer may end up being Insurance. If it does indeed have a fried wiring harness, among everything else. And the repair is $12K. Then send the claim in to your insurance company. Minis have great value as salvage. If the Insurance company can make some of it up on that end, it is easier to total the car.

 

>>Fine, I understand you want to know what happened to his car, but it's none of your business to call the dealership HIS car is at to ask information about HIS car. It's not your car and it's not your problem. Lets let the owner of the car tell us what the problem is.
>>
>>It's called courtesy, and you've proven you don't know what that means.

When someone posts a fairly suspicious post about three computers getting "burnt"
by a remote starter, and the car runnig mostly fine and it costing $12,000 to repair
and the dealer won;t pay, it becomes the MINI communities problem.

He could have kept it to himself, but he stated all this in an open forum.

So, he gave the problem to all of us.

WE, the MINI community need to know if this is bogus or real so that we
can all have some level of confort performing modifications to our MINIs.

Just because YOU don;t care, don't go calling me names.

The owner has had many days, and even has Peter at M7 (a sponsor of this forum)
involved, and suddenly........ SILENCE ..............

Very suspicious.

 

Send lawyers, guns and money; the poop has hit the fan.

 

I still don't see how it has become the communities problem. Again, it's his car, and it's a problem with his car.

He sure did state it in an open forum. That doesn't mean everything about him needs to be listed and talked about by others if he didn't give it out. I would hope the dealership would deny you the information you are so desperate to get a hold of. I'll reiterate that it's an isolated problem with this persons car. It's not some widespread problem among MINI's. If it were, you know we'd be hearing about it.

You may also want to cut the guy some slack. He clearly doesn't spend every night reading and responding to accusations and attacks for not answering questions from someone demanding to know what the problem is. He told you already he is taking it to Peter to see what he can do with it. Why not leave it at that, and wait at least a week then start demanding info again.

BTW, I didn't call you any names. I'm just returning the friendly comment about "using my brain." I'm glad stuff like that is allowed to go on around here. Sure makes a friendly atmosphere.

 

thank you guys for all the responses, i am picking up my mini this saturday and taking it to peter at m7. i will be sure to let everyone know all the details after i retrive my car and get a second opinion.

 

thank you guys for all the responses, i am picking up my mini this saturday and taking it to peter at m7. i will be sure to let everyone know all the details after i retrive my car and get a second opinion.

 

>>thank you guys for all the responses, i am picking up my mini this saturday and taking it to peter at m7. i will be sure to let everyone know all the details after i retrive my car and get a second opinion.


I think you will be in good hands with Peter. Good luck with this one. A lot of people would tell me that I am wrong. But if it was me and I couldn't get Mini to pay for it, and there was no other alternative than to pay for the fixes, the car just might accidentally get really banged up. Probably to the point of totaling it.

 

*Disclaimer* What you are about to read, is a COMPLETE FICTION, made up to restore GIGGLE FACTOR and fix the KARMA of this thread and its contributors *End of Disclaimer*

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Hi, I'm from MINIUSA....


I crack me up, now get back to work before I smack you,
Tatt

 

Superior Sound--good luck and I hope there's a better solution for your car!
Let us know what you find out!

Trippy...can't help myself...I think its fine for you to post that you are suspicious and doubt the story. And list the reasons why, etc etc.

But having stated your suspicions, it appears to me that you then proceeded to badger the person to give up personal information which they indicated would make them uncomfortable (his car was still at the dealers) so you can call and stick your nose in it. Is it so important to prove your point? And if its a true story, is your personal agenda so important that anyone elses' has to take a back seat? (He did, after all start the thread).

Please, your attitude makes me (and I'll bet many others) feel somewhat intimidated about posting here for help or advice. I appreciate the information people (you included) share on this forum, and the dissent and discourse.
Just asking you to think about toning it down a little...guess now I'm trippin....

 

The real problem is that some unknow person makes their very first post
to NAM and accuses a dealer of trying to rip them off to the tune of $12,000

So, I poked my head into it.

We'll see what the result is, but the dealer certainly hasn't gotten a fair shake yet.

 

Bad Trippy! Always asking for facts.

Speaking of facts: http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/

 

>>Dealers are always trying to blame the aftermarket stuff. I've been an installer for 10 years, and I see it all the time. I've seen a situation where I did a remote start in an explorer, and It kept having all these air bag lights and random electrical problems. The dealer naturally called my shop to come check everything out and I couldn't find anything wrong with any remote start related wiring. Turns out there were bad factory grounds, a bad airbag module, etc. Well, the customer got to the point that he didn't want the car anymore bacause it was in the shop so often, but Ford wouldn't buy it back because it did not have a Ford branded remote start in it. I think in the end, everything got fixed, and the customer was happy, but manufacturers, love to deny warranty work when aftermarket stuff is involved.


Hey, No meltdown here!!!

 

Did Peter at M7 find three 'burnt" computers and an improperly-installed remote starter?

Did the dealer try to rip you off?

Can we contact the dealer for their side of the story pretty-please?

Since the car is not there anymore?

I'd like to know what's going on before doing a stereo upgrade.

If a properly-installed remote starter that works can blow out 3
computers, what can a properly installed stereo do?

 

My MINI delear told me not to put in remote start ,I didn't and my car still runs fine ops:

 

Hmmmmmm Peter?

 

TRIPPPPPY.....relax

You will find out whats going on.......have some herbal tea, find your inner Mini and before you know it
...........THE ANSWER

peter

 

The law will have your side on this one. .nullIf you have any problems organize a picket. Ask a moderator before making a post for gathering picketers. I can guarantee that the dealership will look a little closer at the issue. They will have to prove the aftermarket part is at fault. Good luck. We all have your boot!!

 

>>Bad Trippy! Always asking for facts.

 

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmiiinnniiiii
MMmmmmmmelllllltddddooooown!!!!!!

Watch out or you will owe $12,000 to the dealer also!!!!

Or maybe not. I can't tell.

Just don't do a stereo mod until this is validated or refuted.

 

>>TRIPPPPPY.....relax
>>
>>You will find out whats going on.......have some herbal tea, find your inner Mini and before you know it
>>...........THE ANSWER
>>
>>peter

I love that phrase: find your inner Mini.
I may have to add that to my sig, if you don't mind.
Something like: When not online, I'm off comtemplating my inner Mini.

 

If someone else has a problem like this I will part out my S and put in the turbo rotory that I think the car really needs. I have all the parts to do the swap and if the wire harness, guages, and comp's are $12,000 hell motor, trans, exhaust, super- charger, intake, bla-bla-bla should be good for another $12,000. Turbo rotory MINI for the price of the swap. But the fact is it sucks that so many things can get fried by a little extra voltage where you dont need it. Dealers can say what they want but you can push the issue. Ask how it burnt everything show you on the wire diagram how this happend. If they cant say how it happend then they dont know that is what happend do they. Make someone pay for it unless you did the work yourself. good luck. No joke about the parts, $ like that and I will part my MINI today.

 

I'm just kind of wondering if maybe superiorsound runs
a stereo installation business, and wants to scare the bejeezus
out of people who want to install their own stereo so that they
will pay him to install it.

No accusations, just me thinking out-loud.

Sure would be nice to get the dealers side of the story huh?

 

>>If someone else has a problem like this I will part out my S and put in the turbo rotory that I think the car really needs. I have all the parts to do the swap and if the wire harness, guages, and comp's are $12,000 hell motor, trans, exhaust, super- charger, intake, bla-bla-bla should be good for another $12,000. Turbo rotory MINI for the price of the swap. But the fact is it sucks that so many things can get fried by a little extra voltage where you dont need it. Dealers can say what they want but you can push the issue. Ask how it burnt everything show you on the wire diagram how this happend. If they cant say how it happend then they dont know that is what happend do they. Make someone pay for it unless you did the work yourself. good luck. No joke about the parts, $ like that and I will part my MINI today.


Why don't you just purchase an RX-8 and put a turbo on it? Much cheaper and much more of it is covered under warranty.