Here are a few more pictures...

Notes:
-Still working out pricing
-Carbon cowl scoops will be in ABS to start, carbon fiber later
-Release date is ~ 3 weeks













Regards,

-Dan

 

That looks awesome...can't wait to see what the pricing is...

 

can't wait either. any hp or torque numbers yet? is that a K&N filter you guys are using?

 

>>can't wait either. any hp or torque numbers yet? is that a K&N filter you guys are using?

Dyno coming this week/weekend. That's not a K&N in the picture, rather, it's from the same company Dinan uses for their filters. It is cleanable and re-usable just like a K&N. Because K&N doesn't make a filter with element on the top cap area, we felt this filter would be a better solution. The other option is a K&N RU-2820, but the endcap doesn't have filter element.

Regards,

-Dan

 

That's looking very slick. I can't wait to see pressure drop numbers.

 

I agree ... very slick looking.

Is there a bracket on the CF heat shield for attaching the remote battery terminal?

Do you have a picture of the back of the CF heat shield showing where the "Y-pipe" attaches? Is the attachment point "sealed" for those who don't want the "Y-pipe"?

 

nice pics !!!

Dan put me your list, I really would like this kit once it becomes available !!!

can't wait for dyno results

 

BFP-

I love this cowl induction system. It makes a lot of sense with the airbox being so close to the firewall.

You never responded to the question about the direction the scoop faces. It seems obvious that the opening should face front, since the car's going that way, but as other people mentioned earlier many cowl induction systems use rear facing openings, possibly to take advantage of the pressure build up at the base of the windshield.

So I'm wondering if you ever considered a rear facing scoop. Did you test such a set up before deciding to go with the forward facing scoop? Does the MINI have this positive pressure at the windshield base phenomenon? Any thoughts on the rear vs. front question?

 

Hey Dan,
How long after release will the CF cowl scoops be available?

 

Dan,

Your parts question looks like it clears up my one question which was how the cowl vents were able to preform their original function as VENTS with the "Y" pipe attatched. But it looks to me like the "Y" pipe is actually not a "Y" and is ported just through the drivers side scoop, is that correct? If this is true, we really only need one scoop, and the other is cosmetic, correct? If this is true, I would like to suggest that you NOT sell the scoops as pairs, because I, for one, don't like buying superfluous parts. That being said, I REALLY WANT THIS INTAKE!

Also, what is it, exactly, that the stock cowl vents were put there to vent? Is the efficiency of having only one vent versus two going to affect this function? I.E. is my heater coil going to try to bake me, or what? I have only the vaguest of ideas as to the vents' original function.

Lastly, will your downtube fit the throat of an oversized throttle body (possible future purchase)?

Thanks Dan, I'm eagerly awaiting pricing like everyone else!

 

Dan, one more thing I am interested in:

The other intake I am looking at is the Alta, which is constructed in such a way as to have a relatively large amount of free-air space around the filter, which I imagine would be quite beneficial to low speed/around town applications. Your Intake looks like it is fairly restricted as far as free-air breathing, but would quite possibly offer great advantages at higher speeds. Does this sound correct?

Anyone? And at what speed does the ram-air start gaining an advantage over stock?

Can anyone tell me the advantages/disadvantages of these two types of system?

thanks

 

does the new scoops in the vents increase the drag coefficent? If it does, do you know by how much? With this increase in hp , compensate for the increase drag coefficent?They look nice too!


thanks

tony

:smile:

 

Guys...every time you tell him how slick looking it is..the price goes up!...lol

 

Have we got a price yet???

 

Better yet, dyno numbers for the 3 stages?

 

Too bad Carbon Fiber isn't a particularly good insulator ... compared to, say, the plastic of the stock intake. That doesn't matter too much though due to the presence of an intercooler.

 

looks like a sweet intake... couple questions.
is the piping aluminum? and since its pulling directly from the vent to the intake is water a concern?

 

>>Too bad Carbon Fiber isn't a particularly good insulator ... compared to, say, the plastic of the stock intake. That doesn't matter too much though due to the presence of an intercooler.

Carbon fiber does not take on the heat at all like the stock plastic pipe. Where did you come up with that?

 

>>Too bad Carbon Fiber isn't a particularly good insulator ... compared to, say, the plastic of the stock intake. That doesn't matter too much though due to the presence of an intercooler.

Carbon fiber does not take on the heat at all like the stock plastic pipe. Where did you come up with that?

 

if you want to get technical, everything at some point will be "conductive to heat". Plastic is far less conductive than metal, and apparently less than Carbon Fiber as well. I can bet that Carbon Fiber is less conducive than metal as well.

But i am wondering what is taking so long on this intake. Is Garrett working on it?

Who let Lim in the engineering department at BFP!???

seriously though, looking forward to some dyno graphs and pricing information.

-ABT-

 

ocho9 wrote:
CFRP has a higher coefficient of thermal conductivity than, say polypropylene or polyethylene. It lower than aluminum or steel but higher than non-composite plastics. Carbon fibers themselves conduct heat very well - a sheet of graphite would be a horrible insulator. The epoxy resins used in the manufacture of CFRP are decent insulators, but combine them with a poor insulator to make CFRP, and the result is less than stellar.

What it all boils down to is carbon fiber is a worse material for intakes than plastic, but better than aluminum or steel.

Where do you come up with the notion that "Carbon fiber does not take on the heat at all like the stock plastic pipe"?

 

The question is, when are they going to be ready?

 

Dan,

Realize that this system has had a few months out in the back yard. Any news on the Dyno or even road tests for that matter? We in Hawaii seek cold air more than most. Your CF system promises to lighten our load and improve (not sure how much) HP. You also mentioned strut bars. How is yours coming along.

 

i was just wondering.. if i do get this CAI, would it fit the bmp strut tower brace?

 

anything on these yet? Patiently waiting....