Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R53) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

Drivetrain So i have a pretty good idea on how to make a front mount intercooler

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 22, 2011 | 09:59 AM
  #1  
PierreLeona's Avatar
PierreLeona
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
So i have a pretty good idea on how to make a front mount intercooler

But I was wondering if anyone has used maybe the GP intercooler as a front mount? Or would that nnot be logical? Its difficult finding an IC that will fit in the front. Will the Starion IC fit?
 
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2011 | 10:29 AM
  #2  
BlwnAway's Avatar
BlwnAway
6th Gear
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,607
Likes: 316
From: Arnold, MO.
Making an FMIC isn't really the problem, using an FMIC is the problem, you loose more power than you would ever gain from the cooler air.
 
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2011 | 11:13 AM
  #3  
DICKS GARAGE R53's Avatar
DICKS GARAGE R53
6th Gear
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,836
Likes: 6
From: North Denver Colorado
Its more the isue of plumbing than anything else. There have been a few front mount I/C's for the R53's, but all of them used a gigantic core which leads to pressure drop, and less power. I have been saying from the start that a *Properly sized* FMIC would show good results. However due to the compactness of our engine bay's, the pipework becomes an isue.

In order for the idea to work without causing more harm than good, you need to keep the piping as short as possible, and use a small efficent core. Any way you look at it, it will require more plumbing than the OEM setup, so you will loose some boost. Not nessicaraly a bad thing, If the temprature drop is signifficantly better than you can achieve with a top mount. If you could drop 10-20 degrees off of the intake temp, it could make up for a drop of 1-3psi.

Another small isue is with the new piping you will need to find a way to adapt the bypass valve to it, or trade it out all togeather.

The OEM Mitsubishi Starion / Chrysler Conquest I/C might do the trick as far as core size with minimal pressure drop. Find a way to plumb it in and it might work. You are going to need to have parts to replace the "Horns" for the factory setup, the kits that kept them had bad isues with the piping coming un coupled.
 
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2011 | 11:27 AM
  #4  
PierreLeona's Avatar
PierreLeona
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
I wanted to run the GP as the front mount. Mount have a pair of OEM ICs and I was going to chop the coupling ends off of them and weld it to a rectangular exhauat tip and bolt it on to the SC horns. Then bring two pipes down to the front to adapt to the GP.would that be a big ppressure and HP drop for me?
 
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2011 | 11:32 AM
  #5  
DICKS GARAGE R53's Avatar
DICKS GARAGE R53
6th Gear
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,836
Likes: 6
From: North Denver Colorado
I think it would see the same fate as all the others that have been routed like this. It's a good idea, but in reality, it often dosn't work.
 
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2011 | 12:59 PM
  #6  
PierreLeona's Avatar
PierreLeona
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 61
Likes: 0
Okay maybe ill hold off then. I mean I can do it but it will take time and money. Id really to do it ffor the look and the sound. But if the pressure drop is too dramatic I'd rather not do it I suppose. Does anyone know what the IATs generally are for FMICs? With the GP as the TMIC the IATs are generally just 10-15 degrees more than ambient temp. Will bribing that to the front make the IATs even lower? Maybe equivalent to aambient temp? Plus there would be no heat soak right?
 
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2011 | 12:15 AM
  #7  
etalj's Avatar
etalj
6th Gear
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,808
Likes: 3
Just get a howerton engineering HFS-3. Will do more for IAT cooling than any intercooler
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
igzekyativ
MINIs & Minis for Sale
34
Jul 16, 2020 12:54 PM
AWOL
MINI Parts for Sale
4
Mar 28, 2016 10:51 AM
silence2-38554
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
3
Nov 12, 2015 09:39 AM
rckrzy1
Drivetrain (Cooper S)
4
Aug 11, 2015 06:06 PM
noreen99
Navigation & Audio
0
Aug 8, 2015 08:21 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:58 AM.