You need to answer two questions first.....

1) How fast do you want to go?


2) How much can you spend to get there?


Not necessarily in that order tho......the rest will fall into place for you.

 

there are no engine diffreences between the mcs and jcw

 

Buy a Shelby Mustang if you want to go fast in a straight line!!!

 

To put it in perspective, no MINI ever built or modded has yet broken the 180mph mark - partly because MINI's are about as aerodynamic as a brick.

 

Chakraj, I am thinking of buying a DoS CAI. Why did you remove it and go back to stock?

To anybody... I have read that there is no tune for the 2011 MCS yet. True?

 

True, there is no tune yet.

 

Tune or FMIC + NM Pipes first?

 

He didn't say he had a DoS CAI.

 

I read about an original Mini that they flung with a giant trebuchet that exceeded 180 mph.

Dave

 

im trying to find out the same thing.. doesnt sound right
yes he did say that "the MCS pistons are supposed to be forged also.

And with the DOS intake you may have an increase in power it is one of the only ones that you will see that with. (my personal experience with 4 aftermarket intakes) back to stock now."

 

I thought he was replying to my question about my DoS.

 

oh no but how do you like your dos... a review wold be nice lol

 

I certainly feel more torque. I think WMW's Performance BOV really goes well with it, too. On top of that, it sounds awesome!

 

does it make the blow off valve louder?

 

A few thing to think about with the 2gen engines. First of all they are direct injection. THis will limit the amount of top end power you can make without either 1) adding additional external injectors (in the intake manifold) or 2) getting larger than stock direct injection injectors.

Secondaly, to get more power you need both more fuel and more air. THe fuel bit is covered above. But the air bit is just as hard to achieve. THe stock turbo is pretty small. ALTA used to offer a GT28 upgrade and that turbo can make upto about 360bhp! However it WILL lag more thanthe stock unit. What will be intresting to see is the hybrid turbos that come out. These are very popular with cars like the Evo and Scoobies. It allows you to retain alot of the stock hardware (eg exhaust manifold) but offers more power. obviously larger turbo WILL lag more. Dont forget that all turbos have maps for the comp. wheels. You might beable to push 250bhp out of the stock turbo, but it would be intresting tosee where the turbo at on the comp. map at these levels. I have a feeling it will be right over to the right hand side. this is where the turbo is VERY inefficent. You end up at a point when you aren't actually getting any more airflow into the turbo, just heating the air up more (this will give you a reading or higher boost, but the airflow will be the same). One option to this is PRE turbo water/meth injection. This is supposed to help increase the efficeny of a turbo by keeping the air cooler as it is compressed.

Obviously you dont just need to think about the trubo. You need to think about the ewhole system and how to get more air in and out of the engine (asuming you have enough fuel). SO you need to think about the intake (maybe try a panel filters or a CAI kit that has an airbox), The pipework to and from the turbo, then intercooler, Pipes form intercooer to intake manifold, the intake manifold, the exhaust manifold (are there any tubular exhuats manifolds????????), turbo (see above), down pipes, cats, exhausts.

Tune is also VERY important. obviously the stock engine will mechanicallly have its limitations. Unless you can kind someone to put forged pistons and rods into your engine you are going to have to work with the stock items. Dont forget the harder you push the engine the more stress you are putting on these components.

What people need is a company to really work hard on getting 300+bhp out of these engines with supporting mods.

 

 

Yes it does but not to the point where it sounds like the ones you hear in "Fast and the Furious." Haha.

 

lol just finished watching 2fast2furious on tv, dont like their loud bov cause it sounds so ricey

 

Just throwing this in there. DoS and Alta intake and DoS bulkhead will fit the 2011 MCS and JCW. The NM-eng (sexy) intake is CARB certified (for those states where it matters) and will NOT yet fit the 2011. NM is saying late March/early April for the 2011 version and will be lower in price because of a change in parts.

 

NM is sure pretty stuff , works wonders when you remove the hood scoop grille.

 

Cool, You felt a noticable increase in Torque from a CAI and Blow Off Valve .

Crap,My Mini must be broken. I felt a noticable loss of Torque when I installed an Alta CAI.

 

Drop it from a helicopter. They move pretty fast then.

 

are you saying the NM is better then the DOS?

 

You can hear as much or little of the blow-off valve as you like. We now have a CAI cap in addition to our popular CAI noise baffle.

As a side note, we've found that automatic transmission 2nd-Gen MCS's don't like low restriction CAI's very much (ours and others). They like a decent amount of restriction before the MAF.

The best recipes we've found for improving low-end torque & HP for around town driving and in low speed twisties on auto trans R55, R56, & R57 MCS's are:
A) run a panel filter in the stock airbox
-or-
B) run the DoS CAI with the cap in place
-or-
C) run the JCW intake --(WMW normally has a good price on these if you go the JCW route).

CARB certified does not mean better. NM just has deeper pockets than most of the other MINI parts developers out there.

 

I have pulled the trigger and ordered my DoS CAI with the noise baffle today. After much research and talking to Clint on the telephone (a pleasure) I have decided that the DoS CAI is the best for my needs. I will be pairing it up with a WMW Performance BOV to start. Eventually I will buy the NM catback exhaust and then various and sundry suspension upgrades.