Drivetrain Revolution Mini Works Race Cams
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Revolution Mini Works Race Cams
We took the only cam to win a National Championship, multiple track records across the country.... mulitiple podiums and Grand AM wins ..............
AND MADE IT BETTER!!!!!!!!!!
Most would be happy with this, but here at RMW sitting on past accomplishments isn't good enough.........so here it is.........
the first dyno plot is of the stock head with RMW street cam/header, 450cc injectors, 15% pulley and tune. Now we add the RMW big valve head and Race cam and gained 37.8hp over the stock head/street cam!
ALL of our cams are new blanks. If we could get this type of performance from a regrind we would do it.
Now we take the more radical race cam as the only change and retune.
Another solid 10hp over the previous race cam. That's the difference of a pass on the next straight. Now look at the torque at 7k rpms...... a full 28ft lbs where it matters most. Btw...... who said big valves and big cams lose bottom end????? It's all in the proper setup.
AND MADE IT BETTER!!!!!!!!!!
Most would be happy with this, but here at RMW sitting on past accomplishments isn't good enough.........so here it is.........
the first dyno plot is of the stock head with RMW street cam/header, 450cc injectors, 15% pulley and tune. Now we add the RMW big valve head and Race cam and gained 37.8hp over the stock head/street cam!
ALL of our cams are new blanks. If we could get this type of performance from a regrind we would do it.
Now we take the more radical race cam as the only change and retune.
Another solid 10hp over the previous race cam. That's the difference of a pass on the next straight. Now look at the torque at 7k rpms...... a full 28ft lbs where it matters most. Btw...... who said big valves and big cams lose bottom end????? It's all in the proper setup.
Last edited by Revolution Mini Works; 02-02-2011 at 09:32 PM. Reason: more info
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the first 2 race cam versions will idle around 1050rpms
the last one likes to idle higher yet
unless you can stand this sitting at a traffic light I would NOT recommend these to the average Mini owner. These are race cams for a reason. Be extremely careful trying to compare other cams to these as we use the correct rocker ration to give lift/duration. Not some inflated number to make our cams look "bigger" than they really are...........
the last one likes to idle higher yet
unless you can stand this sitting at a traffic light I would NOT recommend these to the average Mini owner. These are race cams for a reason. Be extremely careful trying to compare other cams to these as we use the correct rocker ration to give lift/duration. Not some inflated number to make our cams look "bigger" than they really are...........
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we were comparing it to the "more popular" street/tq cam
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why you reving only to 7k on the stock head.. it can handle a bit more with out damage.
it just makes me think you guys are trying to make the results look better haha. in the first dyno graph if you measured them both at the cut off of the base run then it looks more like only 25hp difference :P
if reved the stock head to the same 7.7k you would see the hp some where in the 235 range.. which is still in line with a 25hp gain... though on the stock head on dont think this would be a good idea lol. i probably wouldn't wanna run it past 7.3-4k
these are still nice gains dont get me wrong there is def some meat under them torque lines
personally im gonna go with the rmw street cam with a header, 450 injectors and 15% + 2% crank, tune with a 7.2k redline and call it a day
it just makes me think you guys are trying to make the results look better haha. in the first dyno graph if you measured them both at the cut off of the base run then it looks more like only 25hp difference :P
if reved the stock head to the same 7.7k you would see the hp some where in the 235 range.. which is still in line with a 25hp gain... though on the stock head on dont think this would be a good idea lol. i probably wouldn't wanna run it past 7.3-4k
these are still nice gains dont get me wrong there is def some meat under them torque lines
personally im gonna go with the rmw street cam with a header, 450 injectors and 15% + 2% crank, tune with a 7.2k redline and call it a day
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the first 2 race cam versions will idle around 1050rpms
the last one likes to idle higher yet
unless you can stand this sitting at a traffic light I would NOT recommend these to the average Mini owner. These are race cams for a reason. Be extremely careful trying to compare other cams to these as we use the correct rocker ration to give lift/duration. Not some inflated number to make our cams look "bigger" than they really are...........
the last one likes to idle higher yet
unless you can stand this sitting at a traffic light I would NOT recommend these to the average Mini owner. These are race cams for a reason. Be extremely careful trying to compare other cams to these as we use the correct rocker ration to give lift/duration. Not some inflated number to make our cams look "bigger" than they really are...........
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why you reving only to 7k on the stock head.. it can handle a bit more with out damage.
it just makes me think you guys are trying to make the results look better haha. in the first dyno graph if you measured them both at the cut off of the base run then it looks more like only 25hp difference :P
if reved the stock head to the same 7.7k you would see the hp some where in the 235 range.. which is still in line with a 25hp gain... though on the stock head on dont think this would be a good idea lol. i probably wouldn't wanna run it past 7.3-4k
these are still nice gains dont get me wrong there is def some meat under them torque lines
personally im gonna go with the rmw street cam with a header, 450 injectors and 15% + 2% crank, tune with a 7.2k redline and call it a day
it just makes me think you guys are trying to make the results look better haha. in the first dyno graph if you measured them both at the cut off of the base run then it looks more like only 25hp difference :P
if reved the stock head to the same 7.7k you would see the hp some where in the 235 range.. which is still in line with a 25hp gain... though on the stock head on dont think this would be a good idea lol. i probably wouldn't wanna run it past 7.3-4k
these are still nice gains dont get me wrong there is def some meat under them torque lines
personally im gonna go with the rmw street cam with a header, 450 injectors and 15% + 2% crank, tune with a 7.2k redline and call it a day
if you look at the lower graphs you can see we ran the car multiple times but used the best ever run for the car with the stock head. It's a fair comparison
good idea!
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i do understand it was starting to lose steam on the stock head but my point is the 37.8hp claim is not comparing apples to apples. your comparing a 7.7k run with a 7.1k run... and im sure you used the best run from the big head too lol. what im getting at is there is still a little more room left in the stock head even if it is losing steam and the real gain wouldn't be whats being claimed...
im just being OCD dont mind me lol
you guys have great products and i cant wait to get my hands on a street cam this spring
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i do understand it was starting to lose steam on the stock head but my point is the 37.8hp claim is not comparing apples to apples. your comparing a 7.7k run with a 7.1k run... and im sure you used the best run from the big head too lol. what im getting at is there is still a little more room left in the stock head even if it is losing steam and the real gain wouldn't be whats being claimed...
im just being OCD dont mind me lol
you guys have great products and i cant wait to get my hands on a street cam this spring
im just being OCD dont mind me lol
you guys have great products and i cant wait to get my hands on a street cam this spring
Maybe you missed the point that both dyno's are running the race cams with my big valve head?
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Awesome
Love the new development for the R53 platform!
What is availability? Would you be able to PM me a price?
I am considering running E85 this season on a track car, how much more fuel does this cam use over your street cam when tuning? Do you have any options for larger injectors than 450cc?
Love the new development for the R53 platform!
What is availability? Would you be able to PM me a price?
I am considering running E85 this season on a track car, how much more fuel does this cam use over your street cam when tuning? Do you have any options for larger injectors than 450cc?
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Awesome
Love the new development for the R53 platform!
What is availability? Would you be able to PM me a price?
I am considering running E85 this season on a track car, how much more fuel does this cam use over your street cam when tuning? Do you have any options for larger injectors than 450cc?
Love the new development for the R53 platform!
What is availability? Would you be able to PM me a price?
I am considering running E85 this season on a track car, how much more fuel does this cam use over your street cam when tuning? Do you have any options for larger injectors than 450cc?
We stock our 450cc and 550cc. But we have access to ANY size injector you want or need. I have 880cc injectors in mine at the moment. We are developing a drop in stand alone which will be a plug and play system. This will be ideal for what you are trying to do. Live tuning, will run the dash etc, run multiple maps and even have on the fly map switching if you like all for less than what you think. This latest version cam will impact your mileage
Feel free to give me a call to discuss.
jan
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Nice work mate, keep up the great work you do for the mini community. Very interested to see how this stand alone goes, will it be completely compatible with everything in the car or will it miss things? If it misses things will it just be a case of firmware upgrades to resolve them?
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My eclipse loped at idle with 246 cams, sounded like a diesel with the headlights and front+rear defrosters on in the winter... that engine would scream to 7200 before the stupid fuel shut off. The next tier up on the cranes would not idle on the stock ECU so I couldn't go bigger at the time.
Besides, I'm sure if Jan wanted to he could twist the cam gear and get some lovely overlap... or make an idle burble tune.
Besides, I'm sure if Jan wanted to he could twist the cam gear and get some lovely overlap... or make an idle burble tune.