Drivetrain blow off valve for supercharged mini?
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It wouldn't work out that good, the vented air from the bypass needs to be plumbed back in post throttle body and pre S/C. I went over this with Jan and a couple others a while back.
Now what would work and provide a little more noise from the bypass is moving the T-body as close to the intake as possible. (Lots of cut and paste, plus extending the wiring and other issues) Making a custom flange on the post I/C side bullhorn to accept a blowoff valve that is recirculation compatible and plumbing it back into the system right after the T-body. (Lots more welding) in the end it wouldnt be of much benefit to a street car just a lot of time and money invested into something different. Even if it did gain any performance over stock it would just be : no posibilities of a yo yo effect (EVER) and maby if you used some smooth aluminum tube from the T-body to the inlet of the S/C it might pick up 1-2 HP from geting rid of some of the odd shaped pices BMW decided to make our intake systems from.
Sorry to disappoint you, but there really isnt much of a plus side to doing all this.
Now what would work and provide a little more noise from the bypass is moving the T-body as close to the intake as possible. (Lots of cut and paste, plus extending the wiring and other issues) Making a custom flange on the post I/C side bullhorn to accept a blowoff valve that is recirculation compatible and plumbing it back into the system right after the T-body. (Lots more welding) in the end it wouldnt be of much benefit to a street car just a lot of time and money invested into something different. Even if it did gain any performance over stock it would just be : no posibilities of a yo yo effect (EVER) and maby if you used some smooth aluminum tube from the T-body to the inlet of the S/C it might pick up 1-2 HP from geting rid of some of the odd shaped pices BMW decided to make our intake systems from.
Sorry to disappoint you, but there really isnt much of a plus side to doing all this.
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I have spoken to BROWNPANTS about his setup, and it works amasingly. He does use a BOV set up that is recirculated after the throttle body, on a custom front mount I/C setup. I have a couple pics of his setup but I am on a public computer right now, I will post the best one when I get home Monday.
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Get one of those personal audio recording devices and then stare at the sun for a while until you sneeze. Right the "AAAHHHHH" part of the sneeze hit record. Repeat if desired, the timing will be tricky. Once you have a suitable recording, wire a speaker under your hood to the device, and then with some creative soldering and wiring, make it so that the play button is pressed whenever your throttle is let go. Should work.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
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Get one of those personal audio recording devices and then stare at the sun for a while until you sneeze. Right the "AAAHHHHH" part of the sneeze hit record. Repeat if desired, the timing will be tricky. Once you have a suitable recording, wire a speaker under your hood to the device, and then with some creative soldering and wiring, make it so that the play button is pressed whenever your throttle is let go. Should work.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
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The OP wanted his for sound. And after reading about Brownparts setup, it is still a technically a BPV, just using a better valve from a BOV. BOVs by definition, vent the boost out of the intake track. His recycles it.
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If sound is all he wants, maybe something like this
http://www.turbowhistler.net/blow-off-valve/index.htm or maybe this
http://www.akamoto.co.uk/dump-valve.asp
There used to be a lot on ebay so it wouldn't hurt to check there.
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http://www.turbowhistler.net/blow-off-valve/index.htm or maybe this
http://www.akamoto.co.uk/dump-valve.asp
There used to be a lot on ebay so it wouldn't hurt to check there.
Just funnun you.
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OK so the OP is SOL if all he wants is a BOV sound. Our cars are supercharged not turbo, and the wasted air needs to be recirculated or the pressure in the S/C will not equilize at idle, and BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN.
DO NOT attepmt to run with any sort of bypass or blow off or diverter (etc.) valve vented to the atmosphere on a supercharged (some centriffigul's its ok) car, its not worth an engine rebuild to make a noise. As far as the sound goes it wouldnt even sound the way you think it would. Nothing like a turboed cars BOV, more like a big air leak at idle.
Not living up to my name here, just from all the research I have done and what others HAVE done, its not worth it.
DO NOT attepmt to run with any sort of bypass or blow off or diverter (etc.) valve vented to the atmosphere on a supercharged (some centriffigul's its ok) car, its not worth an engine rebuild to make a noise. As far as the sound goes it wouldnt even sound the way you think it would. Nothing like a turboed cars BOV, more like a big air leak at idle.
Not living up to my name here, just from all the research I have done and what others HAVE done, its not worth it.
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Sorry to resurect an old thread, but here's my 2¢...
My previous turbo cars (all Saabs) had dump valves from the factory. They were of the recirculating type, putting the released air back into the intake. This keeps the MAF sensor happy, as there's just the right amount of air passing it.
I was surprised to learn our SC MINIs didn't have some sort of dump valve already. That said, the plumbing is so tight that it'd be hard to put one in that'd work properly.
My previous turbo cars (all Saabs) had dump valves from the factory. They were of the recirculating type, putting the released air back into the intake. This keeps the MAF sensor happy, as there's just the right amount of air passing it.
I was surprised to learn our SC MINIs didn't have some sort of dump valve already. That said, the plumbing is so tight that it'd be hard to put one in that'd work properly.
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Sorry to resurect an old thread, but here's my 2¢...
My previous turbo cars (all Saabs) had dump valves from the factory. They were of the recirculating type, putting the released air back into the intake. This keeps the MAF sensor happy, as there's just the right amount of air passing it.
I was surprised to learn our SC MINIs didn't have some sort of dump valve already. That said, the plumbing is so tight that ait'd be hard to put one in that'd work properly.
My previous turbo cars (all Saabs) had dump valves from the factory. They were of the recirculating type, putting the released air back into the intake. This keeps the MAF sensor happy, as there's just the right amount of air passing it.
I was surprised to learn our SC MINIs didn't have some sort of dump valve already. That said, the plumbing is so tight that ait'd be hard to put one in that'd work properly.
The sc is connected to the crankshaft....not the exaust...
So a bv is not only not needed, but a waste...motor slows...so does the sc at the same rate...same for increase....unlike a turbo where there is a lag due to using exaust ....
We do have a bypass valve which unloads the sc at low rpms whenboost is not needed....
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Thanks
You might want to learn more about supercharged cars...
The sc is connected to the crankshaft....not the exaust...
So a bv is not only not needed, but a waste...motor slows...so does the sc at the same rate...same for increase....unlike a turbo where there is a lag due to using exaust ....
We do have a bypass valve which unloads the sc at low rpms whenboost is not needed....
The sc is connected to the crankshaft....not the exaust...
So a bv is not only not needed, but a waste...motor slows...so does the sc at the same rate...same for increase....unlike a turbo where there is a lag due to using exaust ....
We do have a bypass valve which unloads the sc at low rpms whenboost is not needed....
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