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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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SS Brake Lines...

Sorry for posting here... but people tend to visit this part of the forum more than the brakes, wheels and tires part :P so very straight forward question that i haven't been able to find the answer to. i'm putting SS lines with Super Blue fluid on my car and i was just wondering if anyone knows if i need to bleed the ABS pump when i bleed the system? or if there's any kind of special procedure to do it?
 
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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I'm not sure of the exact answer, but I do know for sure that when I put in my SS lines and fluid, I got air into my ABS system, and still haven't got all of it out.

There are diagnostic tools that allow you to run the ABS bleed procedure while doing a regular bleed, but I'm not exactly sure which ones.

The way I got rid of some of my air was to fully depress the brake pedal on a slippery surface to open up the ABS valves and work the ABS pump.This gets some good fluid into the abs system, and allow some aerated fluid to be pushed out into the lines. Then I bled the system, and repeated the whole procedure, which did help, but I have to do it a couple more times, cos I've only done it twice, and my pedal isn't perfect yet
 
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 02:49 AM
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Don't worry about the ABS system. You're fine as long as you got all the air out of the brake system. Super Blue comes in handy when bleeding the system. Your system should be freed of air when you see the Blue Fluid flowing out. I think the procedure is [left rear, then right rear, then left front, then right front]
Just make sure you switch back to Type 200 (Amber) when you go for a dealership visit. They gonna start whining about warranty
 
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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hahaha thanx guys!
 
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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It's not that big a deal

just make sure not to let air in from the top, otherwise you'll end up like etalj. FWIW, I don't know of a low cost brake bleed system for the R56. AutoEngineuity does it for the 1st gen cars though....

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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 06:44 AM
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From what I heard you can't run ATE Blue here in Florida so that stuffs out of the question. What type of SS lines are you using?
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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From what I heard you can't run ATE Blue here in Florida so that stuffs out of the question.
Wow...that sucks....why?
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 07:19 AM
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I have a used set of Mach v lines... Very well cleaned, but from the looks of it they may be helix lines or Ireland engineering... Just cuz they don't have the red coated line covering... But either way they're very generic
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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Wow... that "no blue fluid in FL" law is stupido.

But ATE Type 200 is the same stuff, different color, and IS on the approved list. Nuts.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Porthos
From what I heard you can't run ATE Blue here in Florida so that stuffs out of the question. What type of SS lines are you using?
Pothos,

Is the ATE Super Blue issue a Mini dealer thing or some regulatory thing?
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/acces...tail.jsp?ID=21
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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Regulatory
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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BTW, I never use ATE blue anymore because my dealer has a fit everytime he sees it.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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Honestly, I'd say screw the stupid NO BLUE LAW. Just use it !
I mean who gonna see the brake master cylinder when its being covered by the plastic cowl.

If you have a money tree in your backyard, and are a law abiding citizen, then you can always bleed it with the SUPER BLUE then re-bleed it again with the Type 200 (Amber) or Motul 600.

I'm using the Grassroot SS brake lines. You can custom order them if you have BBK & you can choose any color you want. I think they're one of the best SS line out there.

http://www.grassrootsgarage.com/brakes.html
 
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