You've explained you'd rather suggest "cost effective platforms" than develop Cooper tuning options.

PROMINI Website:
Intake (a 5" long 2-1/2" ID tube with a filter on the end--with that much thought in it--I think, have yet to see it on the site), Header---developed cross platform to complement the S power curves (or does it), Exhaust (3 bends, a muffler, 4 hooks, and 6 welds--took all of an hour and maybe $100 to build the first one).

Flywheel "S only"---That pretty much sums up the Cooper performance availibility.

Another reason you'll see me at the PRI show this December in Indy.


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did anyone see the M7 trubo at SEMA?

 

I didn't, but then again, I didn't get to see lots of stuff.

 

has anybody considered doing a hybrid engine?? i know on hondas you can do a b18-block with a different head (can't remember what it is) and then your hp beats out an SI... just an idea.

 

>>Casey-
>>Actually, a turbo is not down my alley. But Cooper mods are. The CR gearbox, maybe, but I have the means to install it myself. I want to build more of a track car, not one for the strip. While a turbo would be a quick means of power, its just not what I'm looking for.
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>>I would like to see the aftermarket thoroughly developed and don't appreciate aftermarket manufacturers telling Cooper owners they bought the wrong car. As a car enthusiast, I'm looking for performance regardless of what car I own.

I'm certain Casey's is not saying Cooper owners bought the wrong car. Our goal is to develope product for both models. The bigger the audience, the better for us, More potential customers! When we do these projects, we study the engine very carefully. The last thing we want is to have things fall apart. I would love to build a normal Cooper engine. My choice would be normally aspirated (no s/c or Turbo) Possible 1.8 or 2.0ltr displacement. Cam, head work, multi-throttle, slight compression increase. I would use at minimum the "S" rods and crank.

We will be selling one of our project cars soon. Maybe our next one will be a Cooper. What I would like to see is how many people with Coopers would be interested in an engine program for the normal Cooper. I believe that normally aspirated, as a streetable engine, A/C working we can get maybe 165 hp. With marginal idle, and more of a track car maybe 180hp.

 

Here's a question since were talkgin hybrids and such, Woudl it be possibel to drop in an S engine, ( say from a wrecked S) into the cooper ( granted a hood with a scoop woudl be needed... adn more so than that anybody think this new hybrid s/coop could be hooked up to the cvt...

 

It would be quite a bit of work, but you can buy a used MCS engine complete with supercharger for $2k:

http://www.car-part.com

It all goes back to the "why don't you trade it in for an S" argument. I can appreciate the feelings of dandp, his Cooper is set up VERY nicely now, and it would be a shame to lose all that work and money on a trade-in. I had a '97 GTI 2.0 and felt the pull of the VR6, but it just didn't make sense for me to trade at that time.

 

yes you can - i know there is a couple people out there that have or are in the process of doing this - I would also include the tranny from the S...you wouldn't need a different hood if you don't use the supercharger...then you can turbo it...makes for a sleeper cooper and would have the internal strength as well as gearbox to handle the power.