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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Turbo a R53?

Anybody ever thought about turbo-ing a R53? I have a T3 turbo and intercooler, but don't really think it's the best idea.
I'm pushing around 18.5psi with just a CAI, -19% pulley, 380 JCW injectors Stock intercooler, RMW cam, and RMW tune. I'm happy, but mine is an '03 so my gearing isn't all there. ehhh
 
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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http://www.motoringunderground.com/f...ight=euroricer

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there are many many more r53 turbos out there, both twin charged and turbo only.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 12:55 AM
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Ya I know about the whole twin charging thing.... I just don't think it's efficient. Yes you do get the boost form low rpm from the blower, and then boost from the turbo at higher rpms. But i'm talking about using almost everything stock (block, head, pistons, rods, valves, retaining springs...) and turbo it? Is it worth it? Can there be more efficient power with the right turbo set-up?
No crazy HP numbers, just something for the track?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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For the same amount of boost pressure a turbo will give you more power due to less parasitic "drag" on the engine. In other words you can leave everything the same, the only big adjustment you need to make (aside from all the stuff required on any turbo system) is an electric water pump. The stock water pump is driven off the supercharger so when you get rid of the SC you need the electric.

I dont know of anyone who makes a turbo manifold for these cars, so you either make your own yourself or contract that out. The rest is fairly straight forward fabrication.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 06:01 AM
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But......but the whine! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 06:47 AM
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Yeah... it's been done... pretty much since the car was new... IIRC, Fireball Tim's drag car was a turbo-only conversion... Is it worth it? Hard to say... How fast can you afford to go?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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A R53 with no SC whine?! I think that is a felony in most states!
 
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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A R53 with no SC whine?! I think that is a felony in most states!
The 300whp+ makes up for it...
 
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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Good talk, but is it efficient? I track the car and drive it everyday.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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The supercharger pressurizes the air with strictly W_out from the engine, whereas the turbo uses a lot of Q_out from the exhaust gas a and a little bit of W_out from the engine. Since the Q_out from the engine doesnt get used for anything anyway, the system gets you more gain with less loss.

In other words, if you werent tuning the engine for all out power, you would probably end up with better mileage from the turbo.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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if you are going to track it , it's tough to beat a fully setup supercharged Mini
we have kits being made for the Rotrex now
 
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
if you are going to track it , it's tough to beat a fully setup supercharged Mini
we have kits being made for the Rotrex now

so when is the tvs coming out for the 1.6 or is it just better to get the rotrex?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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TVS is vaporware at the moment.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Some Guy
TVS is vaporware at the moment.
Hardly...
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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so when is the tvs coming out for the 1.6 or is it just better to get the rotrex?
Eaton would actually have to make one small enough for our before a kit is developed. When will that be with the Auto industry hurting like it is .

As for me I could care less as I have and love the Rotrex SC .

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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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As for me I could care less as I have and love the Rotrex SC .
Rotrex FTW!
 
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by glnr13
Look and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I0s-Xl6TuY

Turbo only
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 12:34 AM
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Sorry, im a noob, but is the links that glnr13 posted have a the supercharger and turbo?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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the first link is turbo only and the second and third links are twincharged.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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no whine only turbo wooooosch

Turbos sound real good too


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A R53 with no SC whine?! I think that is a felony in most states!
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamicss
Good talk, but is it efficient? I track the car and drive it everyday.
Building a car like the one you are talking about would be a good weekend car....but IMO not a good reliable daily driver. They usually require lots of tinkering to keep running just right.....
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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Building a car like the one you are talking about would be a good weekend car....but IMO not a good reliable daily driver. They usually require lots of tinkering to keep running just right.....
Couldnt agree more....I miss being able to just jump in and drive at any given time, but that's mostly due to other issues other than my turbo setup.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 05:56 AM
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TrickleX are you still having clutch issues???

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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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where is a good place to look for a turbo kit? mostly looking for the custom manifold i guess...alta used to make it, anyone making one now??
 
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
if you are going to track it , it's tough to beat a fully setup supercharged Mini
we have kits being made for the Rotrex now
when will be these kits out and how much?
 
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