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Powerflex Upper Engine Support

I have looked around and can not find instructions on how to install the Uppers on a Nov 2003 MCS. Anyone?
Is it as simple as unbolting the mount and inserting the new poly's into the top and bottom? Should I use the supplied grease with it, or not? Also I have the small upper bushing, it looks straight forward too, but...
 

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from your post sounds like you already know how to do it. It really is that easy.
 
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Yes, use the grease.
 
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Do I need to jack up the engine or anything, Or is it as easy as loosening the bolts and taking it off and inserting it, that is really my question.
 
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No jacking required. Have at it and report back.

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Ok, I will take pictures and post the results. I can't believe that I will be the first to do this. I mean it is a simple one, but...
 
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Those plates are a PITA to get in with the old OEM bracket. Expect a lot more vibration, but the feel is more direct!
 
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You got it right, no jack needed. Just remove the braket insert the Powerflex bushings and reinstall the bracket. It's not hard, just don't overthink it.
 
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Make sure it comes with two large washers. The bushing is useless without them. It will slowly work its way out and start to cut into the bushing.

I got a set from Outmotoring without the washers. (The only reason I know about them is I had a set on my old S in 2006 and it had washers) The difference between the bushings with and without the washers is night and day.
 
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In the kit what I got was the small upper kit (two small purple poly bushings & one metal sleeve), the large upper kit (two large yellow poly bushings & two large metal washers) and a pack of copper silicone grease. Here is a picture:
 
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Does anyone know if the lower engine mount powerflex bushings are supposed to come with washers? Mine didnt. Thanks
 
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No, I dont think they do.

Its just the way the upper one has force applied to it. its different for the lower.
 
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Mine didn't come with washers for the lower either
 
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Okay thanks for the info.
 
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MINI-Madness wrote this install guilde for the lowers, but I can't tell from it if they have the washer, but looking at the install pictures it looks like part of the frame looks like it holds it in.
http://www.mini-madness.com/pdf_file...structions.pdf
 
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Ok, I decided to do this on my lunch break today. I would say it would take less than 30 minutes to do if you aren't trying to get the perfect picture, me it took an hour.
Step 1.
Remove the bolt holding down the bracket arm holding the cables and vacuum lines to the brace

Step 2.
Roll up the bracket up and over as far as you can without forcing it too hard


Step 3.
Remove small bushing bolt (16mm)

Step 4.
Remove Large Bushing Bolt (16mm)


Step 5.
Fish the brace out pulling the small bushing part up and over to the left and than sliding it out


Step 6.
Remove the Rubber Nipple from the upper bushing, use plyers or a util knife

but only the raised Nipple see sample with and without

There should be nothing to remove on the bottom bushing (there is a raised rubber key that both of the yellow bushing will fit into on the bottom (interchangeable)

Step 7.
Lube up old small bushing and push out

Fish old bushing out from backside (easiest to push instead of pulling it out)

(Clean up and off lube used to removal old small bushing making it clean)

Apply new Copper grease to one of the new small bushings and slide into backside

Grease other small bushing and insert, then grease sleeve and insert


Step 8.
Grease large bushing

Smear grease around completely

Insert top and bottom Large bushing into the factory rubber bushings


Spread brace arm to allow for extra room for new bushings and washers
(this is the best thing to do otherwise you mess with it forever)
Reinstall brace the opposite from removal


Slide washers into place on the top and bottom
(a long flat head screw driver will help position the lower washer)
Insert long 16mm bolt back in and start monkeying with the lower washer to get the bolt started, once the bolt is start tighten down

The lower washer will be flush with the New large bushing

Step 10.
Insert short 16 mm bolt into small bushing and tighten down


Step 11.
Reattach the bracket to the brace and tighten down (make sure the slot down from the bolt is threaded onto the brace)
(see picture above)

That's it. Now go motor through some twisties and let the bushings work their way in and revisit to check bolts for factory torque, which I will put in if anyone knows.

I will update with anything anyone has a problem with.
 
Attached Thumbnails Powerflex Upper Engine Support-bracket-bolt6x4.jpg   Powerflex Upper Engine Support-bracketboltremoval6x4.jpg   Powerflex Upper Engine Support-rollingbracketup6x4.jpg  

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Thanks BLU, I'll be doing this at the end of the month.

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I didn't use any of the lube :D Nice write up!
 
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That is why you had more trouble getting the washers in then!
 
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Originally Posted by BLU-BY-U

I will update with anything anyone has a problem with.
Put the lowers in.

You really should do them at the same time. The motor still bucks pretty bad till the lower ones are in. The tranny mount help some as well.
 
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Nice write up. It's always good to show how easy the powerflex bushings install.
 
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