Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R56) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

Drivetrain Alta vs Helix FMICs (For those who want to see the difference)

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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Are those dual water-air intercoolers on that S4? Nice!
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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Come on down to florida i would be happy to show you.I do not post photos of customer cars without permission.

Mark

I never cracked on you or helix and never met you or purchased your product. I do like what helix offers the buying public and you have good reputation.If you read some of my posts you will see that i prefer your intercooler over alta.



Time to get back to my Bristol Beaufighter project.
 

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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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No problem man,

how far from disney is your shop? I am planning a family trip this winter

Originally Posted by Stig One
Come on down to florida i would be happy to show you.I do not post photos of customer cars without permission.

Mark

I never cracked on you or helix and never met you or purchased your product. I do like what helix offers the buying public and you have good reputation.If you read some of my posts you will see that i prefer your intercooler over alta.



Time to get back to my Bristol Beaufighter project.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Exit 98 1-4

Come on down I will put a 1500+ hp viper up on the rollers for you.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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oh man this will be interesting....keep us posted mark after the visit!!!!
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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i wanna tag along... too bad i can't :( damn work schedule T_T
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark@Helix
we based our r56 stepped core intercooler off of our extremely successful 335i design. a little history we posted cad and solidworks drawings as well as had working prototypes in testing(R&D to release a perfect product and not until it was a perfect product) on this site far in advance of the Forge offering. as a side bar this was posted on MINI2.com to get the facts and timeline straight...
http://www.mini2.com/forum/second-ge...items-r56.html

"I had Forge try and build an intercooler for my R56 MCS, they had the car for two weeks and made many tests concluding that there wasnt room for a worthwhile intercooler and the one on it was efficient."

as far as our intercooler is concerned it is a single core(not 2 cores) we have built specifically for this platform and features ambient and charge fin densities that we found through our testing(we tested different cores)to be the best balance of ait and pressure drop. The Helix FMIC is a custom model specific design from the ground up.
About me, I have over 20 years of turbo design and tuning experience, my personal vehicles and those that I have worked on have been featured in European Car, Sport Compact Car, Sema, Ultimate Street Car Challenge and Forza 2 Motorsport Video games. I was also involved in Sport Compact drag racing with Team Mopar and was the GM Performance recommended street car tuner for the Ecotec engines in the GM build book and my intercoolers have been raced at 40+psi of boost!
Thanks for the history lesson (fyi, not being sarcastic)
now throw some tabs on there for hard-mounting and I'd have no problems recommending yours. I've installed both, and while a stout bar & plate core is nice, I don't like things bouncing around or suspended by hoses. I'm also not keen on having some mufflershop hack try & weld tabs onto a cast endtank after it's installed.
 
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