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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 06:52 AM
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The ALTA scoop request

dear all

i am running a alta v2 intercooler.

i am quite happy with the result now but i want more...and this can happen (i was not and i ll explain the reason)

when i installed the alta v2 ic i want it to see the result with my eyes and now just believe what it is told.

with a way i can not describe here (or at least prohibited to do) i realised after multiple tests that if someone just install the alta v2 ic , he will loose power , and this is just because the OEM scoop of the mini's hood is too small. As a result the ower can not take advantage of the benefits of this ic. To do that he must modify the oem scoop (cut it) in such manner to allow as much cool air as possible to go through the intercooler and as a result to the car's engine.

after doing that i have seen better results (again in the same ways) i did before,

again , if someone remove the scoop th results even better (but the car is ugly)

my request is the following: ALTA PLEASE DESIGN A PLASTIC COVER FOR THE HOOD, so as to have a maximum efficiency of your ic v2 design. you have designed a great intercooler which somebody to take full advantage of , must remove the scoop (=> maximum air to "hit" the ic)...

(ps: the m7 scoop has worst results than the modified scoop...we need cool air!!)

my proposition: design plastic caps that someone can install after removing the OEM scoop , thus the ugly hood will become nice and the mini will become really stronger (and torquier...)
 
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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i suggest you quantify all your data and get ready for your ensuing ***** storm
 
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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i do not have the right equipment but i can measure the difference when cars are counted...

whoever has an alta v2 can do some test and see that i am right...

ALTA is a world known dealer and can do sth to satisfy its clients

they have designed the ic to be used with a modded scoop (i have been personally old that over the phone)...do the next step...design a scoop which allows maximum air to be used!

i bet that ALTA can do that efficiently!!

they sure can do it and i aso think that it is time to add this special feature on the already large aftermarket variety of products...!
 
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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First of all, you should have purchased the M7 DFIC and Scoop. Hence you would not be wasting your time with what you did buy, and writing these issues......

Check the stats, M7's DFIC and scoop works and can prove it with my SCAN Guage II which actively registers post DFIC temps.......most days I am 10-12 degress above ambient temps....

Do some research.....ask some questions....no such thing as a dumb question just dumb rambling....
 
Old Sep 9, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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you are not correct...alta v2 is better than the m7...proven...(the torque it provides is the better i have seen in a mini intercooler)

however my topic is specific and i prefer to read answer not telling me what should i do but what alta can do to my request

i bet this is an issue a lot of people would like to know about...

btw ...i do have the scangauge too and if you think that what you see is realtime data you are again wrong...

scangauge II is a fairly good data logging apparatus but "it is slower than a replay"
 

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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 04:48 AM
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by -=gRay rAvEn=-
First of all, you should have purchased the M7 DFIC and Scoop. Hence you would not be wasting your time with what you did buy, and writing these issues......

Check the stats, M7's DFIC and scoop works and can prove it with my SCAN Guage II which actively registers post DFIC temps.......most days I am 10-12 degress above ambient temps....

Do some research.....ask some questions....no such thing as a dumb question just dumb rambling....




Boy......and so diplomatic too.

Who cares which one is supposed to be best....all tests have proven the stock or GP IC's perform better.

But I digress, the OP is asking about a modded scoop. Why do you think the M7 scoop isn't a good alternative?
 
Old Sep 10, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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I think we may run out of popcorn for this one...
 
Old Sep 10, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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I think we may run out of popcorn for this one...
I'm thirsty - pass me a beer
 
Old Sep 10, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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I think the aftermarket IC may be the answer to the question that was never really asked. M7 Extreme Hood Scoop should fit your bill perfectly, may even place a vinyl piece from scoop inlet directly to IC for improved flow. But I very much doubt that Alta will build a scoop for you, no matter how much anyone rants.
 
Old Sep 10, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Sounds like a reasonable request........

his data shows he will do better with a modified scoop. Based on his data he has submitted a request.

If ALTA wishes to build him a scoop, great.

If not, c'est la vie.

Pass the popcorn please.

And an IBC rootbeer.
 
Old Sep 10, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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I don't know if the aftermarket IC's really improve performance or not. I DO know they look soooo pretty....

Malcon's m7 looks great

I am still waiting for a vendor to come out with a flux capacitor.
 
Old Sep 10, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mdbsat
I don't know if the aftermarket IC's really improve performance or not. I DO know they look soooo pretty....

Malcon's m7 looks great

I am still waiting for a vendor to come out with a flux capacitor.
I agree, the aftermarket IC looks soooo good...but I'm not dishing out over $500 to $700 for a pretty IC and Scoop that barely beats the stock IC performance. Maybe the scoop for exterior aesthetics.

 
Old Sep 10, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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guys look...

i am running a 220whp mini reving @7500

when i am normally driving the temperature is 7-10 above ambient (please bear in mind that i leave in greece and ambient temperature reaches 40 degrees (C) during summer,

that drives us to try to find the better ways to cool down our cars...

the issus i am presenting here is not just personal, it has to do with a lot of people that leave at hot waether places...

i believe that alta can do that...i want more fresh air cooling down my ic and giving more power to my mini...

the problem is not present on the 2 & 3 gear but especially on the 4th & 5th where reving is slower and temperature on the compressor increases expotentially...

thats why i need air...

CAN ALTA HELP OR NOT...?
 
Old Sep 11, 2009 | 05:41 AM
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I do not know. I would call or send ALTA and email and find out.

Or you could just wait for the answer here I guess.
 
Old Sep 11, 2009 | 06:13 AM
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I think the OPs best bet would be to have someone local to him fab a custom scoop...I doubt Alta will make him a one-off since they didn't offer one originally with the intercooler.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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+1 Great idea! Also thanosman did you hook up the water sprayer? I don't think a one off scoop would be very cost effective. In the future if you do have any questions for ALTA Performance send them to Sales@ALTAPerformance.com ! Thanks for your business!
 
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sorry but i gotta ....(i have been personally old that over the phone).
what's your number? need any land in the everglades?


+1 on the meth . it'll cool down that beasty .
 

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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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+3 Meth

look up the past Meth threads here in this section
 
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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you could always wait and see if Alta develops a scoop or you could pick up a M7 scoop. I'm running their scoop but not their IC and so are others.
 
Old Sep 23, 2009 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ALTA_Jarid
+1 Great idea! Also thanosman did you hook up the water sprayer? I don't think a one off scoop would be very cost effective. In the future if you do have any questions for ALTA Performance send them to Sales@ALTAPerformance.com ! Thanks for your business!

Thank to both of you for your proposition but i asked for something specific , an alta odified hood scoop, not for me only but for all the alta v2 buyers.

is this something alta can deliver or not?
 
Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:44 AM
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Why don't you contact Alta directly and ask them

Then lets us know how that works out for you since you are not listening to any of the suggested solutions previously offered
 



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