Thanks, and I will be talking to Hubie soon to get more info on this

 

I'll be the 1st to say if funds are unlimited that the RMW Meth Kit may be your best bet and since Jan's going to tune your MINI I know he could really dial it in for you.

If the RMW kit is over your budget then many of the above kits will work well. The DO kit doesn't ship with a tank, but we have many and would be happy to work up a package for any NAM member.

I don't think you will see much if any more WHP, but you will be able to keep what you have with a meth kit. Again Jan may be able to get you more HP with his meth kit when he tunes it in Aug. I'll let Jan address that issue.

Once the MINI is tuned with a meth kit in the whole system, then plan on always running meth for best results.

 

VERY FAIR STATEMENT from another vendor kudos to you for the honesty even at the possible loss of a sale - I will be calling you for items as I need them - outstanding customer service to someone who is not even a customer yet

Ok let me put it this way to ensure I understand.

Since I currently am not running Meth I am lossing power based on my air intake charges temp adding a Meth kit will give me the feeling of more power because I will be less effected by power loss on hot days or hot air intake temps (post supercharger) giving me the end result of more power because I am not lossing power due to high intake temps, correct ?

 

You are Correct and You are Welcome, I'm here to help anyone I can no matter where they buy MINI stuff.

 

YEP

 

Wow this thread is coming out with some great info for those of us new to Meth kits and Forced induction. My back ground is in Jeeps and roll cages and suspensions

JIMINNI's question begs this question

What is the best location for the injection site ?

pre IC?

post IC?

Pre super charger ?


Or ?

 

jeff
feel free to call me next week and I will be glad to show you data

 

Post IC

Pre SC will work also

Or both

Here is my set up

 

Wow so why inject at both sites? Same mix i'm sure? What system are you using?

 

Long story - but I have tried every combination know to man when it comes to this meth kit...
I have tried post IC only, pre SC only, both, all types of meth mixes, water, several different nozzle types and sizes.
I am also running dual maps via Haltech inteceptor, with one tuned for meth.
This set up gave us the most hp with the meth tune.
With no tune it did not make that much of a difference.
I am using an alky control kit
http://www.alkycontrol.com/

 

Just to note, this is not alowed in any class of "racing" I know of. Time trials I guess, and HPDE, but not in racing.

 

Dang There goes my racing career What about auto-x? I'm sure since our cars are so modded they are in the modified class anyway, but what about those even?

 

Along with decreasing intake temps, it effectively raises the octane rating of the fuel being combusted in your motor. So detonation is suppressed...more timing advance can be run, more power in the end. To get the most out of this benefit, a tune is very key.

Without being called part of a certain "camp" or risk getting called a "fanboy"...I will say not all meth kits are created equal, and you do get what you pay for. Not saying you won't see some sort of benefit from a $300 kit...but when it comes to a meth kit...its the best or nothing for me.

There is actually a ton of research out there on meth kits, and if you are considering getting one....do your homework, there is lots to be learned.

 

Jan - will do if a certain day or time works better for you let me know.


ThumperMCS - I agree some items you get what you pay for and others, why spend that much when half will do the job. I caught the points on octane & timing and neglected to include those in my post - thanks for adding that !!


So far I see no camp or fanboy crap going in this thread - just Mini enthusiasts sharing/ learning

 

Thats the spirit Hippie...what ever meth kit you choose...what i can say is that IT WORKS!!!!! ure engine will love you for it : )

 

Yep you get what you pay for. I started with the Coolingmist system and graduated up to the RMW mini specific aquamist system. The difference was night and day. And yes, my car is a daily driver. I idea that this system is overkill for the street is . I was shocked at how much better this system worked. My first test after install was with my big mouth wide open in disbelief. It's that good

Here is good read to help you understand the system. Oh and Hippie, take it from someone who has been there done that. Half will get just that. I hope you don't look at my opinion as anything other then help.

http://www.motoringalliance.com/libr...on-systems-19/



Here is pic of the new powder coated trunk system. You can see it now has a channel with back lit LED so you can see your fuel level in the tank. The LED is taped into the trunk light so when ever you lift the boot the LED comes on. Really trick and I need one now .









The system just pops into the factory D-ring's and is held in place with a single locking screw.

 

WOW! that tank looks awesome!!!

 

Some sanctioning bodies will strictly forbid it, but many just clearly define exactly what fuel the teams can use. In that case since pure water is not a fuel, there are ways to use the systems. For racing applications straight water maybe more advantageous to certain engine specifications than others so it's benefits are mixed when looked at as a whole.

Don't forget the World Rally Championship lived on this stuff for years before the factory teams started pulling out because it was too expensive to race for the exposure gained. That led to injection systems being banned for cost cutting measures a couple of years ago.
Formula 1 also used the systems quite effectively during the turbo era with the turbo V6's a couple decades ago.

 

Good thing the only race I have planned is Big Bend, Texas Open road next April

LongBoard- dam you for posting that

 

still toying which way to go with this,
i have read that a pre supercharger feed, negates some benifits from the intercooler, as temp difference is less so giving a reduced cooling effect,
but wont this "steam clean" give a much better intercooler performance off boost? so helping to keep temps down day to day? sounds like a win/win to me
but is there any big longterm downside to sticking meth thru a supercharger?

or is the best solution twin feed/tanks?

 

Some fellow Mini owners here in Turkey are using AEM meth kits with just pure water.

Going to meth mix deliberately forces you to use a tune to get the best so in order to keep the costs to a minimum and cnsidering average summer temps of 30 degrees Celsius and above, would it be wise to stick to water only?

 

and we all know these classes are NOT "real" racing
classic

as I said before people make so many claims on here that are just pure hogwash... then again, they don't EVEN RACE anyways

 

we sell a remote tuning tool that allows up to 3 maps on it
you can easily upload the water map or pump gas map if you run out of methanol. You will not get near the cooling with water as you do methanol

 

we have a Direct injection kit coming that will only be sold through us

we have done all of the testing on it for them so we will be soon testing it for the R56

as you can see our kit comes with Mini specific parts and install guide

 

so your saying that the mini specific aquamist ure selling can only be purchased thru rmw? even for international buyers like me?

so i cant go to Aquamist and ask for the specific kit ure offering?