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Old May 4, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Looking to make my MINI go fast! Ideas?

I have a 2005 Mini cooper s. I don't really have any mods except for Milltek Exhaust. I want to make it quicker than it is, but i am lookin to spend about 1500. Can you guys give me some ideas in what to look for. the upsides and downsides. if you want you can post your specs with upgrades too. Please help!! thanks a lot


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Old May 4, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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Reduced supercharger pulley $100
Cam $350
380 injectors (or larger) $350
Custom Dyno tune $350

Total cost $1,150 Should get you into the 200+ wheel hp territory

With the extra money you could get yourself a shiny cold air intake!
 
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Old May 4, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Intense
Reduced supercharger pulley $100
Cam $350
380 injectors (or larger) $350
Custom Dyno tune $350

Total cost $1,150 Should get you into the 200+ wheel hp territory

With the extra money you could get yourself a shiny cold air intake!
Pretty accurate but don't forget the pulley removal tool from $80.00 (I have one used only once, $60 shipped) You may need a 635 Napa belt around $25. Also, depending on who does the cam and injector install it could be in the hundreds $$ for labor.

I think Mike at Mynes Performance can do a Newman cam, 550cc injectors and a tune for around $1,200.00 including labor. Mike correct me if I'm wrong here.

I'm pretty happy with my tune and parts. My dyno numbers on a heart breaker Mustang dyno were 193.5whp. Although what matters is the delta of about 40.5whp, I would have liked to see over 200whp. Perhaps I should take my car to another kind of dyno. You know the ones that always read high!! Maybe dynojet or dynapac. Over 200whp for sure. Just my .02 cents. Good luck!
 
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Old May 4, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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try giving Way a call and see if he can do anything for you when he comes to town next month...

check out this link => https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...e-20-21-a.html
 
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Old May 4, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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I will def. give him a call. now with all of those mods, would i have to change out the computer, or just dyno tune it?
 
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Old May 5, 2009 | 07:03 AM
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Intense is right on with his recommendation. It looks like his pricing is based on doing some of the work yourself.

I have exactly the mods he recommends:
- Webb 15% reduction supercharger pulley
- Megamini (Hubie Fuh) V1 Cam
- Bosch 550cc injectors
- NGK Iridium plugs (heat range 7)
and a Mynes ECU tune on a dyno.

The pulley was $300 installed by Webb at a pulley party.
Everything else was done last weekend at ABF in Lake Forest, CA by Hubie and the Mynes crew for just over $1300.

My baseline (with the pulley) was 184HP (Torque was in the 160's)
Final tweaked values: 206 HP (187 TQ) at the wheels on a conservative Mustang Dyno.

Mynes is out of AZ, so that might be a fairly convenient location. You could probably get them to do the whole deal, including pulley for about the same as I paid. (I think they do a traveller's discount)

_Dave_

PS: To answer your last question: No, you don't have to swap out the ECU. They flash your existing one.
 
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Old May 5, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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Cool, i have no problem with doing some work myself, like the manual labor, just the programin i would screw up. I want to be atleast 200. That is my goal. I also have some more questions If you all don't mind. I was looking to get a header too, but all I could find was the aota header. Is there anyone out there with a dif. one? And with the 550cc injectors how is the gas mileage on that. And I wish I was closer Arizona dave! I'm all the way in Chicago. And have anyone got there mini detroit tuned??
 
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Old May 5, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Horsepower does not always mean faster. A good driving school will help you get faster. Also, Ditch the runflats and get some sticky tires. Just my 2 cents.
 
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Old May 5, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mini05_Baker
Cool, i have no problem with doing some work myself, like the manual labor, just the programin i would screw up. I want to be atleast 200. That is my goal. I also have some more questions If you all don't mind. I was looking to get a header too, but all I could find was the aota header. Is there anyone out there with a dif. one? And with the 550cc injectors how is the gas mileage on that. And I wish I was closer Arizona dave! I'm all the way in Chicago. And have anyone got there mini detroit tuned??
Detroit Tuned guys are good, you can't go wrong with them

The 550cc injectors are no problems at all with fuel economy... it's all in the tuned. Most of our customers get better or the same economy with the 550's - (if not all b/c with more power, they get on it more often so the fuel economy goes down :( It's all in the tune

This thread should give you some ideas on mod path... every dyno reads different so pay closer attention to the delta and the overall graphs instead of just peak numbers. The 1st ten posts have pretty much all the info you need.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-your-mcs.html

cheers.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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Personaly I have the RMW header and cam I like it for the midrange.
My car put down 224 on a dynapack with a mild tune,(I needed more injectors)
However, Im very happy with how it runs.
I can easly blitz to 80 without much trouble, Do you need more?
I mean though the mynes crowds dyno reads diffrent than the dynapaks
the real key is the delta between old and new. this is what your going to be feeling not the peak numbers
I encourage you to do some reading as well as keep asking questions
From my experence i would try to spend just a bit more get a header cam and a pulley with a tune to top if off.
Dont forget to hunt thru the NAM marketplace... Its in the upper left of the page for deals.
Hope this helps you some

Colin.
 
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Old May 5, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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We've got all the mods you need. Call if I can help.

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Old May 5, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MINIGURU@WAY MOTOR WORKS
We've got all the mods you need. Call if I can help.

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hey Way, you are stationed between ATL and Indianapolis? wow, busy man

Both Way and DT are very reputable companies - can't go wrong with either one...
 
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Old May 9, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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The Chicago MINI motoring Club has a Mod Party scheduled for June 20 an 21 with Waylen. http://chicagominiclub.com/2009/04/1...0-21/#more-887
You might want to plan on attending.
 
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Old May 10, 2009 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MiniMac2005
try giving Way a call and see if he can do anything for you when he comes to town next month...

check out this link => https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...e-20-21-a.html

Is that Al Jourgesen on your sig? Seen them a few times, way back in 1989 and 1990.
 
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Old May 10, 2009 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by howsoonisnow1985
Is that Al Jourgesen on your sig? Seen them a few times, way back in 1989 and 1990.

why yes it is pic is Al, quote is from the song "Let's Go". Haven't seen MINIstry recently, but I attended a few concerts in the past and I have all of their music (including With Sympathy on vinyl). I used to frequent Wax Trax when it was still around.. those were the days
 
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Old May 10, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MiniMac2005
why yes it is pic is Al, quote is from the song "Let's Go". Haven't seen MINIstry recently, but I attended a few concerts in the past and I have all of their music (including With Sympathy on vinyl). I used to frequent Wax Trax when it was still around.. those were the days

WHAT!!! Wax Trax is gone. OH sad day. Are we talking about the one Denver? The web says they are still around.
 
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Old May 10, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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WHAT!!! Wax Trax is gone. OH sad day. Are we talking about the one Denver? The web says they are still around.
the store in Chicago has been gone for years (the one I was referring to, didn't know it all started in Denver!)... the one where Al used to hang out at. It used to be a couple of doors down from the infamous Biograph Theater. the main floor had all of the music while the upstairs had t-shirts and other stuff. It was a brisk walk from the Diversey stop on the Red Line... I never ran into Al there, but friends used to see him there all the time.

I didn't know there was a store in Denver... I thought the label died out years ago .. click the pic of Al to go to his own label (13th Planet)...
 

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Old May 10, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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Why do I remember Wax Trax as a Wicker Park thing? They were on North Lincoln? Were you part of the Dreamerz crowd? Milk of Burgundy? Did you go to the Rubber Room?

I was there a little after Dreamerz, but I saw some of what was once good about Wicker Park.
 
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Old May 10, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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Off topic?
 
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Old May 10, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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up through the late 80's-early 90's (omg ) it was on N. Lincoln Ave. There was a park on that corner where the skin-heads used to hang out that I had to avoid I don't remember Dreamerz... but I used to hang out near Belmont/Clark (the Alley, Restless Records, all of the vinyl stores on Clark near Diversey), especially at Medusa's when it used to be on Sheffield (wasn't 21 yet) and they still played good industrial music. When they closed the N.Lincoln store, it ended up in Wicker Park. But I never went there.

My apologies to Mini05_Baker for the hijack.... as mentioned before, give Waylen a call since he's coming out next month. I talked to him the other day and he's looking forward to the party
 
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Old May 10, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Yes, there is no room for hipster nostalgia here. Carry on.
 
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Old May 11, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mininuke
I'm pretty happy with my tune and parts. My dyno numbers on a heart breaker Mustang dyno were 193.5whp. Although what matters is the delta of about 40.5whp, I would have liked to see over 200whp. Perhaps I should take my car to another kind of dyno. You know the ones that always read high!! Maybe dynojet or dynapac. Over 200whp for sure. Just my .02 cents. Good luck!
I have 250 whp / 210 tp on The Helix Mustang Dyno (Helix in Philly & Eksteins in NY) with the other tuner. (Cough Jan Cough) But I also respect anyone that is helping mods these cars to destroy all the Honda rice burners.

OP you can make your mini fast with whoever you choose to get your parts from. If you can install the parts yourself you will save some cash or have one of the great Nam vendors / shops do the job for you.

My Advice is do a lot of reading and searching and research and you will save time and $$$ by learning what other have done and had work or fail. Just try not to get caught up in all the "FanBoy" stuff.

I just wish everyone could learn to play in the same sandbox without kicking sand in eachothers eyes.

Happy Modding and good luck.
 
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