Supercharger Eaton M45 Service and repair without a core fee.

Please visit the below link for more details. Thanks Dustin

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post2738385

 

Thanks AXC! I am glad to see this service offered to help with the downtime caused.

They don't offer porting/polishing of the stock unit do they? I am going to assume "no", but it doesn't hurt to ask.

 

Thanks, we don't do the porting/polishing they have found the coating works better. Coat the rotors if needed, since the later ones came coated, and or coat the case.

Info from my site,
Maximize your supercharger’s performance potential by adding our High-Tech Coating to your rotors and or case. This special coating tightens up the case-to-rotor clearances. Yes, we are aware of the black coating on the Gen5 Eaton’s. It is a rubbery interference fit coating that wears in over time to establish the correct clearances for the rotors and case. Our coating is different than this. Ours is similar to the coating applied to piston skirts.

Compared to uncoated rotors, this special coating process significantly reduces metal-to-air heat-transfer. It also gives air a much smoother surface to pass over, creating less friction, thereby requiring less supercharger drive horsepower. That puts more horsepower to the rear wheels, where it belongs.

When we are preparing your supercharger for the coating process, we check the assembled supercharger's clearances first. Then we coat to achieve the correct clearances with our multi-layered dual coating process. After the rotors are coated, during reassembly, the rotors are set to optimum clearances related to your case. We can rebuild part or the entire supercharger, depending upon what is needed to bring it back to operating status. The rotor assembly will need to be rebuilt in order to coat the rotors.

There are two distinct coatings applied. The first coating is TLMB, a polymer for adhesion and wear-resistance. This coating will not scuff if the rotors make light contact at high RPM. The second coating is TLML, which is fused to the first coating. The second coating is slippery and will not gall. It provides a slick surface for the air to slide over to reduce friction and heat. The clearance between the rotor flutes and case tightens up because of the coating’s .005 thickness. Leakage is reduced, increasing the roots-type supercharger’s efficiency. Minor scratches can be rejuvenated with coating, as well.

 

Very cool!

Now all us MINI drivers have to do is drive backwards to make our cars put down more power to rear drive wheels HA HA HA

 

or throw the engine in the back seat like the renault

 

cool stuff...might look into this since my S/C has 100k+ mileage...does it come with the new water pump attached or something we have to source elsewhere?

 

May be a good opportunity to switch to an electric water pump?

 

I second this question

mb

 

Water Pump. as of now we are not dealing with the water pump, just the PTO that drives it. The water pump can be had for about $150 from many of the dealers and larger MINI retailers. We are investigating if we want to rebuild them in house and if we can do it for less then the cost of a replacement unit then we may offer the service.

I encourage anyone with the SC off the MINI to replace the Water Pump, even if it's "fine", why do the labor twice? More details as I get them.

 

Maybe it's just me, but it sounds a little strange to be crowing about "no core fee" when the customer has to send their rebuildable supercharger in to you before you send a rebuilt one out. Of course there's "no core fee" - you already have their core and know whether or not it's rebuildable before anything leaves your shop!

I mean, virtually no one charges a core fee for *anything* if you're willing to send them a rebuildable part *in advance*. Usually, the phrase "no core fee" means that for the stated price, you get the new or rebuilt part and get to keep your old part.

How is your arrangement better for the customer than the traditional method of "pay for the new part plus a core fee, install the new part, send in your old part and get your core fee refunded"? If anything, it's worse for the customer, because their car's going to be out-of-service for the better part of a week while the parts are in transit both ways. With the conventional arrangement, they could leave the old supercharger on their car right up until they had the rebuilt one in-hand.

Don't get me wrong - it's great that you're providing rebuilt superchargers. But you've picked a very strange aspect of the arrangement to emphasize in your promotion.

 

Can you clarify this a little please.

If I have a S/C with the typical ground up water pump gears in the S/C tail does this shop have the capability of replacing them?

 

Thanks for the feedback Scott. There's no one answer to the core issue on the M45. I think most owners will not want or need a used S/C and that will serve as the rebuilt unit for the next customer. However not all S/C will be used for rebuilds due to damage beyond repair. We can't assume the condition of any SC coming in or damage it may suffer in shipping. The only time there will be a core fee is if the customers unit needs extra work to rebuild and replace the shelf unit.

Maybe the better way to say it is, "No Up Front Core Fee" ?
If someone wanted to limit the down time we would be happy to ship the on ready to install unit for an extra fee, that would be refunded once we have a rebuildable unit back in hand with a defined period of time.

I have not found a "Core" program I wanted to use for the M45's and tired to create one that I thought would be helpful to most owners. Like most things in MINI there is no one size fits all.

If anyone as any spacial needs concerning the Core issue please PM, Email or call me and I'm sure we can work it out.

 

If by "tail" you are talking about the PTO running the water pump, then YES we can rebuild and replace as needed to make the PTO good, if not better, then new.

 

Sounds good - so between the rebuilt supercharger and rebuilt Power Take Off unit from you, and a new water pump from wherever we choose to get one, that replaces all the parts in the drive/pump assembly that wear & get chewed up over time?

 

AWESOME!!
This will take care of having to replace your SC near or after 100k all together for most people! What material do you make the gears out of??

 

Yes, this service will allow you to keep an M45 on the road for years to come without buying one from the Dealer. The service will replace all parts that need replacing. The gears, rotors and shafts are made of very very hard metals and will work as designed unless you run the SC out of oil and or run the SC DRY for too long.

We are also working on adding a "dip stick" to allow you to check the oil level in the rebuild unit.

If you want new gears, shafts and such we can do that too, but most don't need it unless they run the SC dry.

 

if your coating is "better" than the oem gen 5 black, would it not pay to strip and replace with yours?

is it happy on a water/meth mix ?

do you do anything to the exterior of the charger?

 

There is no good reason to strip the OEM coating unless it's started to chip off from SC abuse. Works fine with meth and we clean the outside of SC before send back.