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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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It's not a stock sized head. Read the above posts. It has larger valves. No size is given on how much bigger than stock.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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ok..well kinda stock sized....surely not as big as RMWs BV head..
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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It's still a lessed spec'd and cheaper head than other BV heads out there....and you guys have to agree that the performance is quite impressive for a NON-BV head..
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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The other guestion is who did the tune?
By the way. Cosworth- M7 BV is going for $1699.00 no core and it's a brand new head. If you want value you may want to look there.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Agreed!!!! The Cosworth BV is probably the best valued Head out there...I wonder why its soooo cheap...the valve train itself is uber impressive...

why arent you guys rushing to get it?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:02 PM
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Maybe you should go ahead and get that head on your car and dyno it as well to see how much power it gives ?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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May we please stay on topic? Thanks Dustin
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by COOUUPER S
Maybe you should go ahead and get that head on your car and dyno it as well to see how much power it gives ?
the Cosworth BV???? only if there's more MCSs out there who can post Dynos or 1/4 times with it...Ive always said (in the past) that my 1st choice were the RMW BV head....but since now the TPR-2 has come to light...ive changed my mind...will be ordering the TPR-2 very soon....(only because Mike has been brilliant in terms of sales rep, QnA and as well as a brilliant offer)

Im from Brunei you see...and I cant really do trial and error testing like you guys...just imagine all the shipping costs I have to pay on top of the goodies...So, I will only get performance mods once its tried and tested..
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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How much larger are the valves Dustin?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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anyways...GO GO Thumper!!!
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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[FONT=&quot]* Performance Valve Job ( flow cut on Valve)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]*[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Lift at Valve: .410 in. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Int. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]or 10.4 mm.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] .420 in [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Exh.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] or 10.6 mm[/FONT]
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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ops.....

lemme try again...

The TPR-2 Performance Head


* Performance Valve Job ( flow cut on Valve)
* Lift at Valve: .410 in. Int. or 10.4 mm.
.420 in Exh. or 10.6 mm
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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As some of you aware Mike sent us a head to do some testing and see what we can get out of it in the way of performance on the dyno and on the track.

As you can see from the dyno sheet comparing the RMW head and tune on Big Shows car and the Thumper head and Chris tune on 1320’s Mini, it stacks up pretty good.

We still need to do some more testing off combos as and when we can but we have achieved the following so far.
So we are comparing two different engines in two different cars . On top of that one had the very first and only RMW remote tune that proved it wasn't the way to tune compared to the tune from Chris who's spent how much time tuning that car now Paul.

Apples to Bananas at best.

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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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How much larger are the valves Dustin?
I don't have that spec on hand, as soon as Michael gets online he can talk more about the spec.

For the record it was not my desire to post the dyno sheet in this manner or before March 1st. Not my style and new rules for vendors start March 1st.

As listed above there are many heads for a MINI and each has it's own value based on how it's going to be used. Michael and I are not here to say a Thumper Head is "better" than any other head. We are here to give the market one more head to consider. Michael and I will address tech/spec questions about Thumper Heads only. Paul posted the dyno sheet he can address questions about the OP.
For more detail we invite you to email us at Thumperheads@AutoXCooper.com

Thanks Dustin
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AutoXCooper.com
I don't have that spec on hand, as soon as Michael gets online he can talk more about the spec.

For the record it was not my desire to post the dyno sheet in this manner or before March 1st. Not my style and new rules for vendors start March 1st.

As listed above there are many heads for a MINI and each has it's own value based on how it's going to be used. Michael and I are not here to say a Thumper Head is "better" than any other head. We are here to give the market one more head to consider. Michael and I will address tech/spec questions about Thumper Heads only. Paul posted the dyno sheet he can address questions about the OP.
For more detail we invite you to email us at Thumperheads@AutoXCooper.com

Thanks Dustin
Well Dustin, while I appreciate what you say above the Sh&$ talking Michael does on other Mini Forums tells a different story.

Hasn't Thumper been selling this head for a long time now? It's not new to the market correct?

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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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I like that torque curve.

I don't see it on the website, but what cam are you recommending for the TPR2 head? Do you have some suggested specs for the cam?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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I'm not here to say one is better than another either. I would just like to know specs for the heads. Each vendors head has it place in the market. Specs for valve size, type of valves, springs, flow rates, etc. help to evaluate the price value.
Each vendor has his own design for porting. Dyno numbers help, but there are too many variables. If they were all done on the same motor, same day maybe you'd have a better comparison. Good luck with that though.
Please no 1320 times.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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Cool. For $300 less than the RMW this is a real good deal, even if further testing shows that the RMW outperforms it by a few HP you still save yourself a nice chunk of change which certainly makes up for that in MY book.
 

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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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Well Dustin, while I appreciate what you say above the Sh&$ talking Michael does on other Mini Forums tells a different story.

Hasn't Thumper been selling this head for a long time now? It's not new to the market correct?

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Yes Thumper Heads have been on the market well before this. The Thumper 2 is new.

I can't control what he does on other forums.

Like you have said here and others have said before, the dyno doesn't give us an apples to apples test. I don't know that there ever could be one and even if we tired it would still be red apples to green apples .

My Hat's off to Jan and Team RMW for making big power and leading the way for so many.
We are offering another head for those with different goals and smaller budgets. I think there is enough room in the market for all of us.

To Your Best, Dustin
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AutoXCooper.com
Yes Thumper Heads have been on the market well before this. The Thumper 2 is new.

I can't control what he does on other forums.

Like you have said here and others have said before, the dyno doesn't give us an apples to apples test. I don't know that there ever could be one and even if we tired it would still be red apples to green apples .

My Hat's off to Jan and Team RMW for making big power and leading the way for so many.
We are offering another head for those with different goals and smaller budgets. I think there is enough room in the market for all of us.

To Your Best, Dustin
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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I'm not here to say one is better than another either. I would just like to know specs for the heads. Each vendors head has it place in the market. Specs for valve size, type of valves, springs, flow rates, etc. help to evaluate the price value.
Each vendor has his own design for porting. Dyno numbers help, but there are too many variables. If they were all done on the same motor, same day maybe you'd have a better comparison. Good luck with that though.
Please no 1320 times.
Agreed and once Michael gets back on NAM he can address the valve spec's.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AutoXCooper.com
Yes Thumper Heads have been on the market well before this. The Thumper 2 is new.

I can't control what he does on other forums.

Like you have said here and others have said before, the dyno doesn't give us an apples to apples test. I don't know that there ever could be one and even if we tired it would still be red apples to green apples .

My Hat's off to Jan and Team RMW for making big power and leading the way for so many.
We are offering another head for those with different goals and smaller budgets. I think there is enough room in the market for all of us.

To Your Best, Dustin
I totally agree and well said Dustin.

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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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The TPR-2 Performance Head

* Performance Valve Job ( flow cut on Valve)
* Lift at Valve: .410 in. Int. or 10.4 mm.
.420 in Exh. or 10.6 mm
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by not-so-rednwhitecooper
I like that torque curve.

I don't see it on the website, but what cam are you recommending for the TPR2 head? Do you have some suggested specs for the cam?
Paul was running a Newman cam with the head
 
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