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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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super charger belt change

Any threads on how to change a supercharger belt? Dificulty rating?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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If you look at any of the HOWTO threads on changing the supercharger pulley, the steps for replacing the belt are included in the directions.

Basically, the swap is very easy if you have the factory tool to relieve the tension on the belt. Some people have done it without the factory tool by either fabbing up an equivalent tool themselves or by using a combination of prybars, screwdrivers and the like, but the factory tool makes it much easier.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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What are some good sources for the factory tool, and how much are they?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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Turner Motorsports sells it for $95, but if you ask around, I bet some local MINI owner bought one to do a pulley swap and would let you borrow theirs.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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Wow, somebody is making some serious profit on those things. It looks like about $5 worth of materials. I can see why so many people use alternatives means to get that spring depressed.
Thanks for the info I had no idea they were that much.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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A less expensive source http://www.outmotoring.com/mini-coop...tensioner_tool .
 
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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Wow, somebody is making some serious profit on those things. It looks like about $5 worth of materials. I can see why so many people use alternatives means to get that spring depressed.
Thanks for the info I had no idea they were that much.
While it might look like $5 of materials it may take $90 worth of labor to assemble it so it's durable enough to reliably work.

Borrow the tool and spare the expense. Check with your local MINI club members. Our club has a few that members don't mind sharing.

The belt swap is not hard to do.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 05:57 AM
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Point taken minihune, that tool definitely has an aggravation prevention value of way over $5. Good Point.

Borrowing from a local club member is always a good option and an opportunity to share a little more personally with another enthusiast.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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I used my Bentley manual to help me remove the drive belt. Bentley's never failed me but it is very simple, just remove the fender liner and some of the bottom front spolier/rock-guard. The aforementioned tool does help significantly as does having small hands. You could also look for instructions on replacing the pulley as you have to remove the belt to do so, and that could point you in the right direction as there are tons of those guides out there. I got the belt tensioner tool from Aaron at OutMotoring and it couldn't have made the job easier. I did my belt around 65k miles when I started to hear a chirping and when accelerating I felt the car slipping. I'm glad I replaced it when I did (see pic of the old belt)...
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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belt change is pretty straight forward, the tool makes it easy and is worth the cost in my opinion. THe most difficult part of changing the belt is easily removing THOSE STUPID PLASTIC EXPANDING RIVETS
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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The belt can be changed without removing the wheel and liner. Drive up on ramps, remove the splash gaurd over the oil pan, slip the belt from the idler pulley, off the SC pulley, and pull through the bottom; installing the new, hang the belt over the SC pulley, and route the new belt over the other pulleys saving the idler for last. I use a stick to position the belt where my hands can't reach.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by k-huevo
The belt can be changed without removing the wheel and liner. Drive up on ramps, remove the splash gaurd over the oil pan, slip the belt from the idler pulley, off the SC pulley, and pull through the bottom; installing the new, hang the belt over the SC pulley, and route the new belt over the other pulleys saving the idler for last. I use a stick to position the belt where my hands can't reach.
This sounds like the way Wayland's guys did for me at the Dragon.
The best part is it was fast and cheep. And no tool to buy.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by k-huevo
The belt can be changed without removing the wheel and liner. Drive up on ramps, remove the splash gaurd over the oil pan, slip the belt from the idler pulley, off the SC pulley, and pull through the bottom; installing the new, hang the belt over the SC pulley, and route the new belt over the other pulleys saving the idler for last. I use a stick to position the belt where my hands can't reach.
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but are you saying you can simply slip the belt off and back on without using the tensioner tool. I am getting ready to change my belt and would like to avoid buying the tensioner tool if at all possible. I am running a 15% pulley and would like to put a smaller belt on.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by cmy
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but are you saying you can simply slip the belt off and back on without using the tensioner tool. I am getting ready to change my belt and would like to avoid buying the tensioner tool if at all possible. I am running a 15% pulley and would like to put a smaller belt on.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry, no, you're still going to need a tool to relieve the tensioner spring.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 07:41 AM
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Since replacing supercharger belts comes up periodically with always the same responses about using buying/borrowing a tensioner tool, how about a show of hands and locations of listers who have the tool to loan out and post it some place on this forum. OK, I'm George in Shoreline (just north of Seattle Washington) and I have a tensioner tool for borrowing for Seattlelite R53 owners. I have replaced my belt so can also offer tips and encouragement.
One thing that I did find out about the tool; it's a little fiddly keeping the tool pins engaged in the tensioner holes when you're loading it up. I used a long piece of welding rod to lock the tensioner.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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Tip: To keep the tensioner tool pins in place, I use a wood shim on the side. BTW, I wouldn't think of taking a long trip or going to a track event w/o the tensioner tool. I've saved a couple of MINI owners a bunch of aggrevation due to thrown/busted belts. Oh, yes...check your tool kit..either in the tool wrap or the foam plastic "brick" wedged into the battery box. You'll find a wire tool to stick in the tensioner hole.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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Thanks for the response and tips.

Good idea ramjet77. I will be purchasing the tensionser tool very soon. I can't offer any guidance yet, but can offer the tool for borrowing. I'm Chris and located in Dayton, OH.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Here's a write up that seems to simplify the SC belt change w/o special tools.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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You don't need the special tool, just a long steel rod, about 3ft long.

I found some guy's solution on here for not using the tool, after a while of searching. Can't remember his name or where to find the post, but the credit goes to him for this. It works quite well. I just found some old iron rod in my garage, it was about 3ft long, and just picked random screw out of my toolbox that looked about right.


a 5/8" or 16mm hex socket for a fulcrum point
a 1" to 1.5" screw
and a little allen key to place in the hole to hold the tensioner back.

My crappy diagram, giving you the basic idea.


 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzsaw
Here's a write up that seems to simplify the SC belt change w/o special tools.
It would still seem that you would have to take tension off, but that write up makes no mention of it. Doesn't seem possible without relieving tension first.

k-huevo you out there?
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Belt has been changed

I purchased the tensioner tool from ebay for $65 shipped and it worked great. First time changing the belt and did it in less than thirty minutes. I used the Gatorback 635 and know now the old belt was slipping.

Thx for the tips.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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Jahmills iron rod idea worked excellent for me too.
 
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