Drivetrain MINI Madness R56 Software Tuning and Performance Packages
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well since that is no where in question seeing how I have 8600 miles on my car in factory warranty, I guess for now low 200s will due. Perfectly fine with that for now...especially if a proper tune can atleast get it up in the 218 to 225WHP. Possible or also far fetched? Thanks for the tips and not letting me get my hopes to high lol.
Is your car automatic?
#79
Alright.... so to get this thread BACK on track..
Is there anyone who has any personal information regarding this new ECU tuning? ALTA has since pulled their option off the website, so maybe they also have a new solution?
I have my checkbook ready and waiting for a clean ECU solution. Ultimately, I'd like to see the "Shark Injector" version for the R56... but sadly, he isnt supporting the MINI market. That was the way to go for the e36 and e46 M's
Is there anyone who has any personal information regarding this new ECU tuning? ALTA has since pulled their option off the website, so maybe they also have a new solution?
I have my checkbook ready and waiting for a clean ECU solution. Ultimately, I'd like to see the "Shark Injector" version for the R56... but sadly, he isnt supporting the MINI market. That was the way to go for the e36 and e46 M's
#80
Was pure13's issue with the refund or retune ever done? I read EVERYTHING that Bigshot was posting about and because like he said, the thread is closed, and was wondering the outcome?
Bigshot, thanks for the information, not sure if many R56 owners knew of this. Something to consider in regards to purchasing the Evotech brand.
Bigshot, thanks for the information, not sure if many R56 owners knew of this. Something to consider in regards to purchasing the Evotech brand.
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I would like to raise a contradiction about the stock turbo's efficiency... that seems to be dispelled by dyno graphs (especially from the ones at the top of this thread):
Most of the arguments or feelings are that the turbo runs out of steam before the redline, so there is no headroom above it (or you should get severe cutoff of power gains or possible detonation)
From the graphs...if that was true, any power gains about 5500RPM would/should drop right back near the stock curves (if the turbo was really out of gas). Also, it appears to be not leaned out at the top.
This really looks like a great - almost too good to be true - scenario.. and proves that this turbo should be more than enough for this car.
Already, with a catback and intake mods, ive noticed a slight lag (more than stock) in my car... but the top end has improved dramatically over stock. I am currently very pleased to have a more rev happy car than torque at 1500rpm.
Coming from an M3, I really miss having a larger RPM band to play in... id love to even get another 350rpm or whatever this tune gives (as long as it is safe).
Most of the arguments or feelings are that the turbo runs out of steam before the redline, so there is no headroom above it (or you should get severe cutoff of power gains or possible detonation)
From the graphs...if that was true, any power gains about 5500RPM would/should drop right back near the stock curves (if the turbo was really out of gas). Also, it appears to be not leaned out at the top.
This really looks like a great - almost too good to be true - scenario.. and proves that this turbo should be more than enough for this car.
Already, with a catback and intake mods, ive noticed a slight lag (more than stock) in my car... but the top end has improved dramatically over stock. I am currently very pleased to have a more rev happy car than torque at 1500rpm.
Coming from an M3, I really miss having a larger RPM band to play in... id love to even get another 350rpm or whatever this tune gives (as long as it is safe).
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SuwaneeM3, you make a good point. I too have noticed a slight lag with my mods as well, however, the power I have gained outweighs any small lag I experience. I think the thing everyone forgets is this a 1.6 litre car that we are trying to make into a rocket No problems with that at all, but we should remember, it's not an M3.
#88
I would like to raise a contradiction about the stock turbo's efficiency... that seems to be dispelled by dyno graphs (especially from the ones at the top of this thread):
Most of the arguments or feelings are that the turbo runs out of steam before the redline, so there is no headroom above it (or you should get severe cutoff of power gains or possible detonation)
From the graphs...if that was true, any power gains about 5500RPM would/should drop right back near the stock curves (if the turbo was really out of gas). Also, it appears to be not leaned out at the top.
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Most of the arguments or feelings are that the turbo runs out of steam before the redline, so there is no headroom above it (or you should get severe cutoff of power gains or possible detonation)
From the graphs...if that was true, any power gains about 5500RPM would/should drop right back near the stock curves (if the turbo was really out of gas). Also, it appears to be not leaned out at the top.
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If it was only a tune for boost (similar to many plug and prays, IMO) then you would likely see power dropping a lot after peak boost like you mentioned.
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You are also forgetting that it is a complete tune. Therefore, I would suspect that there is more ignition at higher rpms to continue the power curve. This is common on many small turbo cars like a VW 1.8t or Subaru wrx. Once the turbo runs out of breath (usually around the peak TQ number) they can add timing and fuel to extract more power.
If it was only a tune for boost (similar to many plug and prays, IMO) then you would likely see power dropping a lot after peak boost like you mentioned.
If it was only a tune for boost (similar to many plug and prays, IMO) then you would likely see power dropping a lot after peak boost like you mentioned.
#92
I pulled the trigger last week with my Clubman with zero modifications. Here is the dyno sheet. I have to say that I am very happy with the results. Drivability and power is improved all around and I am seeing slightly better gas mileage IF I can stay out of the throttle, which has been difficult. Overall I made about 15hp to the wheels and 20tq. There was another highly modded R56 there with a huge intercooler (m7 I think) and full turbo back exhuast. That car made significantly more power with the flash then mine did...so I guess a downpipe and exhaust is next for me. This could start getting expensive!!
Oh my car is automatic trans..
Oh my car is automatic trans..
#93
I pulled the trigger last week with my Clubman with zero modifications. Here is the dyno sheet. I have to say that I am very happy with the results. Drivability and power is improved all around and I am seeing slightly better gas mileage IF I can stay out of the throttle, which has been difficult. Overall I made about 15hp to the wheels and 20tq. There was another highly modded R56 there with a huge intercooler (m7 I think) and full turbo back exhuast. That car made significantly more power with the flash then mine did...so I guess a downpipe and exhaust is next for me. This could start getting expensive!!
Oh my car is automatic trans..
Oh my car is automatic trans..
I ask because I thought I read 44HP increase with two other mods...
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Mark
#94
I pulled the trigger last week with my Clubman with zero modifications. Here is the dyno sheet. I have to say that I am very happy with the results. Drivability and power is improved all around and I am seeing slightly better gas mileage IF I can stay out of the throttle, which has been difficult. Overall I made about 15hp to the wheels and 20tq. There was another highly modded R56 there with a huge intercooler (m7 I think) and full turbo back exhuast. That car made significantly more power with the flash then mine did...so I guess a downpipe and exhaust is next for me. This could start getting expensive!!
Oh my car is automatic trans..
Oh my car is automatic trans..
I might have to pay Richard a visit over there next time I'm back home in Scottsdale . Glad to see that the R56 EvoTech is a little more serious than the version for the R53...which was a joke.
Can you comment on pricing?
#97
..you know Rich then, full retail of $849, but he did throw in free dyno time.
#100
So, thats prob why his pricing was different, they can name whatever price they want basically.