Drivetrain Seems to be limited in power mods.
#26
This has turned into a really good thread!
Thanks again to all who has replied. I'm a huge fan of turbos but I was afraid the snail on this car was a little small for what I'm used to. But I think the R56 has more potential then people have found yet. It always takes a little time to unlock the secrets. I'm willing to wait it out. I'm not looking for huge power numers, 200-220 would be just fine. After some weight reduction and suspension mods I'm sure it would be quite the fun machine. Even though it's already the most fun I've had and I've driven some much faster cars. You just can't beat a Mini!
Thank you for the suggestions on parts for suspension and brakes. I hadn't looked into which brake pads to use yet.
I'll also have to dissagree with 200 hp is 200 hp comment.
Numerically yes, but you also have to factor in all the variables. Such as the weight of the car, the gear ratios of the transmision and final drive can make a huge difference, the fact that superchargers and turbochargers give you power in different ways, superchargers have parasitic loss from driving the charger, adiabatic efficiency in a turbo is much higher than a supercharger. Superchargers give you power abruptly making it very easy to spin the tires whereas a turbo spools up putting all the power to the ground.
I don't think HP isn't king of scca either. If you look at it this way, "HP is how fast you hit the wall. TQ is how far you take the wall with you." Meaning the HP gives you speed, while TQ makes you move. In my opinion, seeing as how you change speed so often while cone racing, you need torque to get you back up to speed quickly. Rather than top end speed which is HP.
Thanks again to all who has replied. I'm a huge fan of turbos but I was afraid the snail on this car was a little small for what I'm used to. But I think the R56 has more potential then people have found yet. It always takes a little time to unlock the secrets. I'm willing to wait it out. I'm not looking for huge power numers, 200-220 would be just fine. After some weight reduction and suspension mods I'm sure it would be quite the fun machine. Even though it's already the most fun I've had and I've driven some much faster cars. You just can't beat a Mini!
Thank you for the suggestions on parts for suspension and brakes. I hadn't looked into which brake pads to use yet.
I'll also have to dissagree with 200 hp is 200 hp comment.
Numerically yes, but you also have to factor in all the variables. Such as the weight of the car, the gear ratios of the transmision and final drive can make a huge difference, the fact that superchargers and turbochargers give you power in different ways, superchargers have parasitic loss from driving the charger, adiabatic efficiency in a turbo is much higher than a supercharger. Superchargers give you power abruptly making it very easy to spin the tires whereas a turbo spools up putting all the power to the ground.
I don't think HP isn't king of scca either. If you look at it this way, "HP is how fast you hit the wall. TQ is how far you take the wall with you." Meaning the HP gives you speed, while TQ makes you move. In my opinion, seeing as how you change speed so often while cone racing, you need torque to get you back up to speed quickly. Rather than top end speed which is HP.
#27
That is a great point. Horsepower isn't everything.
That's why the stock R56 is as fast as or faster than the JCW R53 and maybe even the GP (straight line speed anyway). It's also faster to 60 than the current Civic Si (197 hp) and the GTI (200 hp). Not sure about the 1/4 times. That torque is where it's at my friend.
Watch out for the 2-3k rpm dip though.
That's why the stock R56 is as fast as or faster than the JCW R53 and maybe even the GP (straight line speed anyway). It's also faster to 60 than the current Civic Si (197 hp) and the GTI (200 hp). Not sure about the 1/4 times. That torque is where it's at my friend.
Watch out for the 2-3k rpm dip though.
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#30
Besides your basic intake and exhaust and modifying the turbo you would have to turn to more drastic engine mods.
If I was going to go ***** out on the mini.I'd remove the head ,get it port and polished and do a valve job.If there is room,maybe even enlarge them a bit.If someone makes Oversize pistons,then I would also bore it out.Displacement alone makes good horsepower.I also wonder is someone has a new MAF Sensor that can replace the stock one?
If I was going to go ***** out on the mini.I'd remove the head ,get it port and polished and do a valve job.If there is room,maybe even enlarge them a bit.If someone makes Oversize pistons,then I would also bore it out.Displacement alone makes good horsepower.I also wonder is someone has a new MAF Sensor that can replace the stock one?
#31
Besides your basic intake and exhaust and modifying the turbo you would have to turn to more drastic engine mods.
If I was going to go ***** out on the mini.I'd remove the head ,get it port and polished and do a valve job.If there is room,maybe even enlarge them a bit.If someone makes Oversize pistons,then I would also bore it out.Displacement alone makes good horsepower.I also wonder is someone has a new MAF Sensor that can replace the stock one?
If I was going to go ***** out on the mini.I'd remove the head ,get it port and polished and do a valve job.If there is room,maybe even enlarge them a bit.If someone makes Oversize pistons,then I would also bore it out.Displacement alone makes good horsepower.I also wonder is someone has a new MAF Sensor that can replace the stock one?
#32
Got Pho, the best add on for me was the DP, get ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! youll **** your pants with glee.....
#33
Another way of programming would be to modify the signal inputs to the ECU to trick it into reacting the way you want it to.
#34
Hmmm, I wasted a ford mustang today, both light to light and top end speed. Are you looking at a "justacooper" by mistake? The Mini S comes w/ about 172 hp 200 ft lbs overboost and weights about 2600 pounds. This is not a small block or a big block, you cannot have the same 1/4 mile expectations, the MINI lives its life much longer and fuller than just 11 seconds.
You need to spend money when you deal with imports. Look too add intake, exhaust, and a ECU tune to start with. I recommend not going with the piggyback style ECU as many of us have issues with the item. ALTA makes good parts, shop around, you save some cash. Welcome to the small displacement, boosted and able club.
You need to spend money when you deal with imports. Look too add intake, exhaust, and a ECU tune to start with. I recommend not going with the piggyback style ECU as many of us have issues with the item. ALTA makes good parts, shop around, you save some cash. Welcome to the small displacement, boosted and able club.
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#37
I saw a Ferrari 430 get passed by a Subaru GT wagon at Lime Rock about two years ago. It was on the long straight right before big bend (a dive bomb) ... It was the green run group though. Wish I had my camera.
I had a friend running around 60 sec around LRP in an older Mustang v8 that was pretty stock (had slicks and a few mods). Faster than most stuff there in that run group that day including a Viper, Porsche 911s, BMW M3s and Minis.
I had a friend running around 60 sec around LRP in an older Mustang v8 that was pretty stock (had slicks and a few mods). Faster than most stuff there in that run group that day including a Viper, Porsche 911s, BMW M3s and Minis.
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#40
The NEW Mustang GT runs low 5's and high 13's in the quarter. However, i've seen a stock 2002 Mustang GT Automatic Dyno less than 200hp at the wheels. Older GT's are pretty slow in the quarter too, high 14's at best, so I can definately see how Matty wasted a Stang.
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