Drivetrain DINAN is INSANE
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DINAN is INSANE
I had the Dinan Stage III package installed on my '03 Cooper S yesterday and WOW!!!! This car is STUPID FAST. I honestly still cannot believe how quick this little car is. First thing I did was take her to Malibu to do some canyon driving - I've never had to worry much about the traction control before, but now it absolutely needs to be turned off!! Insane, ridiculous, amazing.. If anyone is considering modding their R53s, Dinan is seriously the way to go! ![Nod](https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/images/smilies/nod.gif)
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If it is true that Dinan has stopped development on the R56 engine, it doesn't bode well for other tuners out there. Not saying that they are the end all but they are right at the top. May be that the effiency engineered in to the motors (which is fantastic) hampers attempts at burning more fuel to make more HP. If you have to redesign everything, it would just be to costly. Sort of like Porsche, thinking you can buy one of their lesser engine packages and bump it up to the next will cost you more than to get the more powerful one to begin with. Most of their EP's are right at the limits of their design to begin with... 2 cents.
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I had the Dinan Stage III package installed on my '03 Cooper S yesterday and WOW!!!! This car is STUPID FAST. I honestly still cannot believe how quick this little car is. First thing I did was take her to Malibu to do some canyon driving - I've never had to worry much about the traction control before, but now it absolutely needs to be turned off!! Insane, ridiculous, amazing.. If anyone is considering modding their R53s, Dinan is seriously the way to go! ![Nod](https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/images/smilies/nod.gif)
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http://www.dinancars.com/store/Engin...p-1-c-762.html
Looks like a software upgrade, but they want you to have their air box,
and their exhaust is recomended. Nothing about a pulley. That is another upgrade!!
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See details Stage 3 Engine
Software (2002-2006)
Product Number: D903-16R3
Stage 3 Engine Software is for use with the Dinan High Flow Cowl Induction Intake, optimizing performance and drivability. The Dinan Free Flow Exhaust is recommended.
Dinan software is not available for purchase on-line as it must be downloade...
Price: $299.00
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http://www.dinancars.com/store/Engin...p-1-c-762.html
Looks like a software upgrade, but they want you to have their air box,
and their exhaust is recomended. Nothing about a pulley. That is another upgrade!!
See details Stage 3 Engine
Software (2002-2006)
Product Number: D903-16R3
Stage 3 Engine Software is for use with the Dinan High Flow Cowl Induction Intake, optimizing performance and drivability. The Dinan Free Flow Exhaust is recommended.
Dinan software is not available for purchase on-line as it must be downloade...
Price: $299.00
Looks like a software upgrade, but they want you to have their air box,
and their exhaust is recomended. Nothing about a pulley. That is another upgrade!!
![](http://www.dinancars.com/store/images/T/MIPP-30.jpg)
See details Stage 3 Engine
Software (2002-2006)
Product Number: D903-16R3
Stage 3 Engine Software is for use with the Dinan High Flow Cowl Induction Intake, optimizing performance and drivability. The Dinan Free Flow Exhaust is recommended.
Dinan software is not available for purchase on-line as it must be downloade...
Price: $299.00
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I just looked, and found the Dinan site to be confusing. Here is what the site says about the "Stage 2" PACKAGE:
"Part # SR53-S2
"Labor Hours 19.9
Price $5467.60
Point Value 10
Peak Horsepower 205 @ 7000 rpm
Peak Torque 180 lb/ft @ 4500 rpm
Special Notes Not applicable for cars equipped with automatic transmission.
Included Items Stage 5 Engine Software; Boost Upgrade System; High Flow Cowl Induction Intake; High Flow Throttle Body; Free Flow Exhaust; Strut Tower Brace; Stage 3 Suspension System; Dinan Deck Lid Badge; Serial Numbered S2 Plaque."
I frankly cannot understand WHAT the OP bought when he says a "Stage 3".
First, there is NO "Stage 3" package offered on the site.
Second, the "Stage 2" package includes "Stage 3" suspension, "Stage 5" tuning SW, and a bunch of other stuff.
Seems confusing to me.
"Part # SR53-S2
"Labor Hours 19.9
Price $5467.60
Point Value 10
Peak Horsepower 205 @ 7000 rpm
Peak Torque 180 lb/ft @ 4500 rpm
Special Notes Not applicable for cars equipped with automatic transmission.
Included Items Stage 5 Engine Software; Boost Upgrade System; High Flow Cowl Induction Intake; High Flow Throttle Body; Free Flow Exhaust; Strut Tower Brace; Stage 3 Suspension System; Dinan Deck Lid Badge; Serial Numbered S2 Plaque."
I frankly cannot understand WHAT the OP bought when he says a "Stage 3".
First, there is NO "Stage 3" package offered on the site.
Second, the "Stage 2" package includes "Stage 3" suspension, "Stage 5" tuning SW, and a bunch of other stuff.
Seems confusing to me.
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Exactly. Stage 3 is the software that is designed to accompany the cowl/airbox cover, which I have. All it is is an re-engineered airbox cover with matching software so that there is a near neutral pressure for the intake. According to one JCW vendor (not I), this is one of the benefits you get with the JCW airbox/software, without the electric bellows function. Of course the additional JCW components are designed for the software, but you don't have to install them all at the same time.
Their prices have gone way up in the past year, probably due to lack of demand--they need to get more money to pay for the engineering, I guess.
There was only one other Mini owner at MTTS Miami with the kit (he got the nifty badges, but I don't need no stinking badges!)
Their prices have gone way up in the past year, probably due to lack of demand--they need to get more money to pay for the engineering, I guess.
There was only one other Mini owner at MTTS Miami with the kit (he got the nifty badges, but I don't need no stinking badges!)
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The difference being that the Dinan tune is made specifically for their airbox and exhaust; whereas GIAC and others are made for other bolt-ons that they didn't develop and manufacture. Not saying it's the greatest thing out there, but's not as generic as the others. I'll see what the dyno says later this month....before I get my pulley, JCW injectors, & JCW tune.
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Dinan is way too expensive. They just charge you for the name. They jack up the prices with pretty names and common bolt-on that you could do yourself for half the price and the same results if not better. I had their tune on my car and when Jan got to see my car it was running way too lean at 13.5.
Bolt-on your own upgrades and just get a tune from Jan. That is by far the best return of performance for the money you can get.
Bolt-on your own upgrades and just get a tune from Jan. That is by far the best return of performance for the money you can get.
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Dinan is way too expensive. They just charge you for the name. They jack up the prices with pretty names and common bolt-on that you could do yourself for half the price and the same results if not better. I had their tune on my car and when Jan got to see my car it was running way too lean at 13.5.
Bolt-on your own upgrades and just get a tune from Jan. That is by far the best return of performance for the money you can get.
Bolt-on your own upgrades and just get a tune from Jan. That is by far the best return of performance for the money you can get.
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The difference being that the Dinan tune is made specifically for their airbox and exhaust; whereas GIAC and others are made for other bolt-ons that they didn't develop and manufacture. Not saying it's the greatest thing out there, but's not as generic as the others. I'll see what the dyno says later this month....before I get my pulley, JCW injectors, & JCW tune.