Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R53) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

Drivetrain 250bhp with stock head...........

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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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250bhp with stock head...........

.............yeah I know you all going to go what a load of baloney

But last Sunday we won the yhe new Mini Cooper S class at Shakespear County Raceway, temps were 21c weight at 2550, runs were on normal pump gas, tyres were Yokohama 195/50-15 Parada Spec 2 cost $58 a tire, though thes tires are okay for the track there not that brillant on the drag strip. This run was done with no burnout.

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15% Alta V2 pulley
RMW cam
Janspeed 4-1 manifold
GRS Intercooler
One ball stock Exhaust
Quaife Diff
Exedy Clutch

STOCK AIR BOX WITH DIRTY BLACK FILTER

60ft 2.260
330ft 5.910
660ft 8.905
mph 82.28
990ft 11.415
1/4 13.651
mph 104.33


Its not how much you spend but how well you spend it
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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So what's the magic bullet here that everyone else is missing? The dirty air filter?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Webster
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I changed my post on ya.

edit: but nevermind. Within the realm of possibility. Good job. Not questioning. Etc.
 

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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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damn you, lol.

Its just shows selecting the right parts is the key, though I realise most people rather have the acoustics off a cat back and a CAI but this goes to show you dont have to.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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sweet!
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AutoXCooper.com
sweet!
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Damn impressive stuff!
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 03:32 PM
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Is the tune stock as well?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RedSkunk
So what's the magic bullet here that everyone else is missing? The dirty air filter?
haha!

yes i to am wondering about the tune also

those are great numbers.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 05:21 PM
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Clean your air filter Mr. Webster!

Sweet 1/4 time and mph too!

Jeremy
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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damn i want a pulley and cam!! ; )
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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I knew there was something missing off the list ecu tune as well
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Webster
Its not how much you spend but how well you spend it
Point taken, but how much did you spend on the magic fairy dust?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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Point taken, but how much did you spend on the magic fairy dust?
i think M7 if coming out with some fairy dust pretty soon.. expect a 60 HP increase!
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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Hmm M7 right.
I cant imagine what RMW dust will do.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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Paul, what do reckon that is at the wheels the us Yanks tend to measure.

When at Shakespeare County Raceway do you need to speak in iambic pentameter?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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Nice one Gnate.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Webster
.............yeah I know you all going to go what a load of baloney
To go from 168 BHP to 250 BHP from basically a pulley, cam, header and weight reduction is hard to believe. Most of this gain would have to be accredited to the weight reduction.

In the US, to get to this type of number has required more mods.

Congrats on winning.

 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by gnatster
Paul, what do reckon that is at the wheels the us Yanks tend to measure.

When at Shakespeare County Raceway do you need to speak in iambic pentameter?

I would say its about 215WHP but will wait for Paul to confirm
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gnatster
Paul, what do reckon that is at the wheels the us Yanks tend to measure.

When at Shakespeare County Raceway do you need to speak in iambic pentameter?
You have to take it to the next level Gnatster, which I dont understand, obviously my better half is totally disgusted with me, as guess what she teaches, yes English, and like you can write English in a way that is nice and easy to read for the less fortunate ones like myself.

I've seen 219.9whp with 250bhp before
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bahamabart
To go from 168 BHP to 250 BHP from basically a pulley, cam, header and weight reduction is hard to believe. Most of this gain would have to be accredited to the weight reduction.

In the US, to get to this type of number has required more mods.

Congrats on winning.

This engine 47k on bottom half and had rolled over several times had a 6 mile old head on, and wait for this a GREY blower as well and hit 165whp 195bhp.

I gave Thomas the bollocking of his life that he had put a teflon blower on, but had to retract it when we found the 08/02 sticker on it
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Webster
This engine 47k on bottom half and had rolled over several times had a 6 mile old head on, and wait for this a GREY blower as well and hit 165whp 195bhp.

I gave Thomas the bollocking of his life that he had put a teflon blower on, but had to retract it when we found the 08/02 sticker on it
Hers the thing - I interpret BHP being at the crank which the factory reports 163 / 168 based on year so right off the bat there is a difference of 27 - 32 HP.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Yup you got it, Its when people ask for 210bhp on the phone and you have to explain they might nearly be only 15 bhp away from that already.

I've learnt now never to predict anything

I believe the worse we've seen at the wheels is 150 and best is 167
 
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 05:59 AM
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I know in the UK here are a bunch of cams available and you went w/ RMW. Not knowing the order of your installs, can you comment on the cam? Also which header? long or shorty of Jan's ?

Your next step should be a tune. At least here in the US, Jan has the most experience, gone the furthest and was/is developing remote capabilities. While I'm not running Jan's tune, I am running a custom tune which tied everything together and really woke up the car.

food for thought.
 
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