Drivetrain Help M7 or Alta V2??
Help M7 or Alta V2??
Hi i wish to purchase the following:
- IC
- Supercharger Pulley
- Crank pulley
- injectors
- oil catch can
- Throttle Body
I honestly don't think it matters...I went with M7 because it was slightly cheaper than ALTA at the time of my purchase. I also like the looks of the products more, but I also have ALTA...so I have both.
-Cody
-Cody
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It's not a must have but actually it does what it is suppose to do - w/ an OCC you will find no oil in your IC or horns. I pull about a tablespoon out every 2-3 months.
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If your primary goal is to keep your IC clean, that's another story, but a catch can isn't going to give you any performance gain
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Last edited by Guest; Apr 9, 2008 at 02:36 PM.
2) SC Pulley - One of the biggest bang for your buck products out there. I'd stick to a 15%, the manufacturer isn't that important. Alta, Craven, Helix, it's all the same thing really. I'd stay away from the 16% because of the odd sizing (Belt sizing can be difficult) and because people have had issues getting them on and off. Make sure you change your belt to a smaller one if you put a new pulley on.
3) Crank Pulley - Most of the "Big Guys" will tell you to stay away from this, doesn't really do anything and it has caused issues in the past with harmonic balancing. It's a pretty touchy subject on here but in my mind, after spending close to $20k on engine parts over the years, if I haven't figured out a reason to buy one, what's the point
.4) Injectors - Might be a good idea if you plan on going crazy with mods. You can get a set of 380's from Helix for around $260. These will be good up until about 210 whp. If you want to go much past that, Jan from RMW has a set of 440 cc Injectors you can get. Stay away from modified injectors without the stock spray pattern. These cause fuel puddling and you'll be throwing codes like crazy.
5) OCC - See my post above about OCC's and their merits. I don't run one, nobody that I've worked with runs one or recommends that I run one, so I haven't wasted the money. It's your call, it's not going to hurt anything, but it's really not going to help either.
6) Throttle Body - In 350+ whp applications the throttle body hasn't become a restriction, it certainly isn't going to be one on a car putting down sub 200 whp numbers. This is a MAJOR profit source for people that do them. They sell you somebody else's that they machined, then take they take yours, machine it for $35, and charge $299 to the next guy who thinks it might help. Bigger isn't ALWAYS better either, RMW has run into some issues trying to tune these.
If you're looking for a mod path for engine only, I'd do this:
SC Pulley - $99
Intake - Take your pick, they all do the same thing
RMW 440 cc Injectors - I want to say $499, but I can't remember
RMW Exhaust - ~$2000
RMW Head - ~$2200 + a few other things needed for install
RMW Tune - $350
With all that, you'll be putting down between 225 and 240 whp.
If you want to go light, pull off the 440's and replace them with 380's, and take the head and exhaust out to save $4200. With just a pulley, intake, and tune you'd probably be putting down around 190 whp. If you have the money, an exhaust with a good header would add another 8-10 HP to that figure.
Last edited by Guest; Apr 9, 2008 at 02:39 PM.
Ditto on the IC and Throttle body. No real need for them as they don't offer much unless you are going to an extreme level of performance, in which case you would need a whole bunch of other things before you need to change those.
I'm not sure it's that big a deal
I found about a 3 C difference at red-line after cleaning....
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Rustyboy laid out an excellent plan. These mods have been pretty fun--total is around $3400 though...if it has to be under $3K then drop the Wilwoods and get some adjustable control arms or new lightweight wheels, etc..
Pulley $100
Alta Intake $250
Invidia Exhaust $600
Megan Coilovers $1000
Wilwood 12.2 BBKs $900
22mm rear sway bar $200
RMW Tune $350
But it depends on what you've done already. Aftermarket wheels and tires are important too.
Pulley $100
Alta Intake $250
Invidia Exhaust $600
Megan Coilovers $1000
Wilwood 12.2 BBKs $900
22mm rear sway bar $200
RMW Tune $350
But it depends on what you've done already. Aftermarket wheels and tires are important too.
Rustyboy laid out an excellent plan. These mods have been pretty fun--total is around $3400 though...if it has to be under $3K then drop the Wilwoods and get some adjustable control arms or new lightweight wheels, etc..
Pulley $100
Alta Intake $250
Invidia Exhaust $600
Megan Coilovers $1000
Wilwood 12.2 BBKs $900
22mm rear sway bar $200
RMW Tune $350
But it depends on what you've done already. Aftermarket wheels and tires are important too.
Pulley $100
Alta Intake $250
Invidia Exhaust $600
Megan Coilovers $1000
Wilwood 12.2 BBKs $900
22mm rear sway bar $200
RMW Tune $350
But it depends on what you've done already. Aftermarket wheels and tires are important too.
I have done version 2 alta CAI full millteck exhaust and bilstien pss9 coilovers
Do you just want power or are you concerned with handling and stopping too? If you just want power, get an RMW Head, a pulley, and call it a day.
If you want it all, grab a set of TSW springs, some new shocks, a nice new set of pads, a rear sway bar, pulley, and RMW Tune, and call it a day
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If you want it all, grab a set of TSW springs, some new shocks, a nice new set of pads, a rear sway bar, pulley, and RMW Tune, and call it a day
Do you just want power or are you concerned with handling and stopping too? If you just want power, get an RMW Head, a pulley, and call it a day.
If you want it all, grab a set of TSW springs, some new shocks, a nice new set of pads, a rear sway bar, pulley, and RMW Tune, and call it a day
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If you want it all, grab a set of TSW springs, some new shocks, a nice new set of pads, a rear sway bar, pulley, and RMW Tune, and call it a day
Well, the head you can get yourself, and either install yourself or have most any shop install it that's worked on MINI's before. Do you have 3000 American or 3000 Australian dollars? Even in our weak economy I still think 3000 Aus is less right?
There are other option like piggy back systems (eg Haltech - which is made down under and there are a lot of local distributers) but I would probably stay away from them due to the nature of the stupid mini ECU!
Not totally true - I have managed to line up a Dimsport tune in Sydney to go with my Thumper head. Even without the tune the baby is making some serious hp
. Even though the "high performance" shop (I use that term lightly) were hopeless....but that is another story!
There are other option like piggy back systems (eg Haltech - which is made down under and there are a lot of local distributers) but I would probably stay away from them due to the nature of the stupid mini ECU!
There are other option like piggy back systems (eg Haltech - which is made down under and there are a lot of local distributers) but I would probably stay away from them due to the nature of the stupid mini ECU!
Were did you get your head from??
Thumper, another manufacturer here that makes heads out of FL. His products are great, but it's not a true "Big Valve" head. They're cheaper, but you're not going to make as much power.
And to answer your question, yes, I think you'll be more than happy with a head and pulley
. Jan is doing remote tunes now, so that could be the way to go if you can squeeze a little more dough and get a custom dyno tune.
And to answer your question, yes, I think you'll be more than happy with a head and pulley
Not totally true - I have managed to line up a Dimsport tune in Sydney to go with my Thumper head. Even without the tune the baby is making some serious hp
. Even though the "high performance" shop (I use that term lightly) were hopeless....but that is another story!
There are other option like piggy back systems (eg Haltech - which is made down under and there are a lot of local distributers) but I would probably stay away from them due to the nature of the stupid mini ECU!
There are other option like piggy back systems (eg Haltech - which is made down under and there are a lot of local distributers) but I would probably stay away from them due to the nature of the stupid mini ECU!



