it's hard to tell exactly who is speaking here as usual.... Alex or Jesse

here are some facts:

Osch did the tuning for Gintani during the time Randy Webb was involved with you.... whether he tuned his race car is up for debate.....

Jesse is tuning Gintani cars now..... he wasn't there to tune Randy's car so regardless.... IT'S A MUTE POINT.....

but feel free to keep the laughs coming

also if the tuning was so great why would a guy go to an inferior form of tuning like the Unichip?

 

Why. Don't you believe Randy will tell the truth. I only ever saw a Unichip on his car.

 

we're talking heat yes? then why all the perry mason crap about below freezing etc.? lets get real . they're saying their system works to reduce heat way good . leave it at that . stop the tacky ness .

 

Do you think GINTANI bashing will ever become an olympic sport? Should be a few gold medalists out there already!

The vendors actually pays for this?
Why would you bother?

 

Really you think this all started around Oshs days rofl shows how much you know.

 

Cuase Jan is a liar thats why.......I will see you at AMVIV JAN Oh yeah cant wait. I honestly would just expose you but we keep trying to play clean and you keep trying to **** us off. One more post from you I will say everything I have to say about you online F##ckit you wanna play dirty lets go.

 

Why don't you ask Randy to post his comments?

 

If he wants to chime in and shut this crap up then he can do it. I am not Randys father to tell him what to do. I hope he does though to shut this guy up.


Jan? lets go

 

Someone hit a nerve. wow

 

He wont post cause he knows......I will post dont call a bluff. And dont lie again I have phone records with your number on it buddy. Lets go.

 

Yep, hard to imagine. They won't bother for much longer.

 

Bring it
let's talk about you and GIAC and your secrets Jesse

 

And this all is the reason why vendors wont pay no one is looking at the parts but they sure like to be hens about the rest.

Jan no word nothing to say. Holdon a minute he might be getting the troops together to bash us again. This time he has alot of explaining to do if I post.

 

Lets also talk about how you got your tuning files first and then lets keep going

 

Wanna sling sh$t lets sling

 

its comical watching you bury Alex's company before it gets going
wanna try explaining how you always have ambient temps Mr "engineer"?

 

Canada......

 

Do you want to explain the heat coefficeint between water and aluminum and air and aluminum.....My guess is you cant. You dont want this JAN I will expose you completely as the thread unfolds. Try me.

 

What a crooked web we weave when we practice to deceive. Jan Jan Jan..

 

Where do you think Gintani got a lot of their data from for the aftercooler????

I'll tell you since it seems as if you don't know...Randy Webb He was running their cooler, header and other parts long ago when they were in proto-type phase. Randy has posted many times on how great the Gintani system was, and that he couldn't heat soak the cooler even after he twin charged it. (with the race heat exchanger) The info is all on here, try utilizing the search function. Randy said that yes it was expensive, but you get what you pay for!

So that's what I meant from that statement

 

wow... you really know nothing...... try a different vendor buddy

 

Jesse,
the only one that will be exposed is you....
go ahead and bury yourself....

 

Gintani
Were you referring to me when you wanted to shut some guy up? I really hope not. I don't take threats very well if that was directed at me! I just asked if Randy had the answers why wouldn't you have him chime in. Post some numbers. Then maybe people will get off your back.

 

WOAH!!!!!

Lets got some stuff straight here...

And yes thanks, I've had a quite an enjoyable afternoon at the MetroplexMINI.org Easter Egg Hunt, won an iPod Shuffle in the raffle too.

But anyway...yes I took Gintani to task online about the hype they have on their website. I wanted to know more. Ya'll saw that stuff above. I tried to just keep it all withing the lines of the facts that were or are available, gleaned from the Gintani site. Frankly to me it had the scent of some BS to me. I think ya'll know by I call em as I see em. That alone has alienated me from some vendors, oh well, I'm over it.

Then after picking my car up from the paint shop, the entire front end was redone, looks great BTW, thanks for asking, I was sitting in typical Dallas traffic when it hit me. This would be a perfect item for the NAM Alliance Magazine Product Review section we have just started. Our first item is undergoing testing as we speak, look for the article in the next issue of the Alliance magazine. I called Gintaini and spoke to Jessie and laid out the program for him. Jessie said he'd need to speak to his partners and he'd get back to me. This was later Friday afternoon and frankly I don't expect to hear anything back till next week. I posted that we had a possible plan and for y'all to sit tight.

Well that didn't happen...

So here we are now in the middle of a firestorm. I'm sorry it happened. Lets all take a few steps back and enjoy some time away from this thread and see how it plays out.

I guess I had better start a thread about the review program and how it works. Look for that later please. I need to swap pads and tires and wash the MINI. Plus I have dinner plans. Let me assure you, I am not the person doing the testing. I am merely the agent that gets the parties together and then prepares the article for publication.

Now, everyone...a deep breath please...and let it out....there.

 

Really cant explain can you is that why you ran from investments you couldnt make it. I know a few people that worked with you in investments they both chuckle when I mention your name. Good thing you switched to an engineer a few weeks after wait a minute take that statement back. Where are you purchasing your heads, strokers etc. They arent made at your facility its one in the valley and its not your partner in crime. Explain who does all your hardware for you.