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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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Hey, it's not all RMW until stage 5 .

What can I say, I believe in the products

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Stage 5 is actually where the MINI transforms from a BMW product to a nearly unbreakable RMW product
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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Stage 1 (06/07)
15% Pulley
Brake compound change (Hawk HPS)
19mm RSB

Stage 2 (09/07)
Dinan Cowl + Software
JCW Exhaust

Stage 3 (now)
Brake rotor replacement
JCW 380cc Injectors
IE adj camber plates

Stage 4
Koni Yellows
Rear control arms
-Track time-

Stage 5
-Warranty expires-
BBK
Custom tune
400cc injectors
I/C upgrade
 

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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Stage 1:
Factory Cupholder
Actual Size Sticker
Glove Box Tidy

Stage 2:
OutMotoring ARC Armrest
Seat Pulls
Ian's Auto-Up


Stage 3:
LED Interior Bulbs
DICE iPod adapter
PIAA Wiper Blades

Stage 4:
Rear Wiper Delete with Squirt Mod
Aesthetic Creations Door Sills
Pull To Inflate Sticker w/ Faux Tow hook

Stage 5:
K&N Drop In Filter
DVD Player w/ the Original Italian Job on Constant Repeat
Chrome Hood Scoop w/ Matching Chrome Boot Handle w/ Chrome Mirror Caps
Mini Mania Cup Holder (in addition to the factory cupholder)
...and last but not least, a Palo Uber Wing Spolier Add-On


...and yes, I do have one of these mods
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Go Stuff
Stage 1
WMS 15% pulley
JCW or WMS Sportbox CAI
RMW catback
RMW tune

Stage 2 (way maybe stuff)
RMW head (maybe ENDYN)
RMW header (maybe HyTech)
380cc injectors
ENDYN ported intake manifold, intercooler runners, reworked SC

Suspension/Brakes Stuff
Stage 1
SS lines and brass bushings all around
brake pads
tires (type TBD)

Stage 2
Upgraded rotors all around
front camber plates and/or rear sway bar
JCW suspension

Lookey Lookey Stuff
Stage 1
Interior pinstriping

Stage 2
Aero sideskirts
Exterior pinstriping and flames

Other Stuff
TSW gen 2 dampener
Full speaker upgrade
 

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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by smportis
No personal experience, but I do see (and have read) that BMW and Merced still use cross drilled vs slotted. There are definite schools of opposite opinion. I have heard that there is more weakness and cracking in a cross drilled rotor. H*ll, that just makes sense, as it has to weaken the surface with all them holes in it.

But, slotted, while good for the track as it scrapes off the glossed surface of the pad due to the high heat caused by the severe driving, greatly shortens the life of your pad (according to what I've read - I'll try to find the references), because it does the same thing during city driving - shaves the pad.

It does seem that the MINI community is against my opinion though. See the poll results here from someone's poll on brakes:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...sults&pollid=2


Scott
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but proper race application (and presumably OEM Merc and BMW) "cross drilled" rotors aren't cross drilled at all, they are forged with the holes in them already, making them less likely to have those problems. But truly cross drilled rotors are indeed a greater risk of cracking and weakening the surface, so they aren't a good idea.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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This was also take from my brake response.....
TAKEN FROM THE STOPTECH WEBSITE....

Which is better, slotted or drilled rotors?

StopTech provides rotors slotted, drilled or plain. For most performance applications slotted is the preferred choice. Slotting helps wipe away debris from between the pad and rotor as well as increasing the "bite" characteristics of the pad. A drilled rotor provides the same type of benefit, but is more susceptible to cracking under severe usage. Many customers prefer the look of a drilled rotor and for street and occasional light duty track use they will work fine. For more severe applications, we recommend slotted rotors.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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And I was also told that the drilled rotors are only for aesthetic reasons now but in the old days it was necessary due to the type of brake pad compound used...
 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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---Go fast stuff:

Part 1
-CAI (used)
-Invidia Catback (yes, my dealer will void my whole power train warranty because of a catback)
-VIP custom engine damper

Part 2 (warranty expires)
-15%
-Tune (canned or otherwise)

Part 3 (unlikely)
-RMW rotrex kit
-Lightweight flywheel and new clutch (depends on when my current clutch goes)

---Turny stoppy stuff:

Part 1
-Hawk pads (type TBD)
-Slotted rotors
-IE fixed camber plates

Part 2
-19mm rear bar
-JCW springs (maybe)
-Lightweight 16's
-Koni FSD's

As far as aesthetic mods go, there is no real plan for that. My general goal though is to get a very capable street machine on a reasonable budget.
 

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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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Ok, so I took Longboards 2 posts and combined them into 1 list of upgrades. I put a "+" to things he added in the next round, and a "-" to things he removed that he had previously paid good money for (and hopefully sold to some lucky individual).

Dang Longboard, how much do you have in your car? Care to put $$ by each item, or would that be depressing?

Impressive.

Stage 1
  • Alta CIA
  • Alta 15% pulley
  • RMW tune
  • One Ball Exhaust
  • Brake Upgrade
  • Rear Sway Bar 19mm or 22mm
  • Performance Wheels and Tires
Stage 2
  • - One Ball Exhaust
  • + Milltek Cat Back
  • + OBX Header
  • + JCW 380cc injectors
  • + Progressive Rate Springs
  • + Helix Rear Control Arm’s (Lower)
  • + RMW Tune
Stage 3
  • + Koni FSD’s
  • + GP Intercooler
  • - OBX Header
  • + RMW Header
  • - Milltek Cat Back
  • + RMW Cat Back
  • + RMW Head
  • - JCW 380cc Injectors
  • + RMW 440cc injectors
  • + RMW Tune
  • + Clutch
Stage 4
  • + OMP Upper Strut Bar (My Opinion The Best)
  • + OMP Lower Strut Bar
  • + Rear Drop Links
  • + Ireland Engineering Fixed Camber Plates
  • + Helix Control Arm’s (Lower)
  • + RMW Rotrex Kit
  • - GP Intercooler
  • + RMW Intercooler
  • + RMW Port Matched Intake
  • RMW Tune
Stage 5
  • - Progressive Rate Springs
  • + JIC Coilovers and Camber plates
  • + Helix Control arms - Upper
  • + RMW 2.0 L Crate Motor
  • + RMW Tune
  • + Water/Methanol Injection
 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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DONE.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AZMCS


DONE.
LIAR!!!! there is no spark plug wires or coil on it
 
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
LIAR!!!! there is no spark plug wires or coil on it
Okay okay...you got me!!!!!

But once those are in there this is the only view you'll get of me even with the Rotex:


Thank Jan, I needed a good chuckle. O how times on NAM have changed with HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED providing the comic relief....kinda makes me want to hang out here more than I do these days
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 04:53 AM
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Ahh, finally someone with a "Looker" !! Nice job HighLife!

Some for Show, some for Go!

Scott

Originally Posted by HighLife4136
Stage 1:
Factory Cupholder
Actual Size Sticker
Glove Box Tidy

Stage 2:
OutMotoring ARC Armrest
Seat Pulls
Ian's Auto-Up


Stage 3:
LED Interior Bulbs
DICE iPod adapter
PIAA Wiper Blades

Stage 4:
Rear Wiper Delete with Squirt Mod
Aesthetic Creations Door Sills
Pull To Inflate Sticker w/ Faux Tow hook

Stage 5:
K&N Drop In Filter
DVD Player w/ the Original Italian Job on Constant Repeat
Chrome Hood Scoop w/ Matching Chrome Boot Handle w/ Chrome Mirror Caps
Mini Mania Cup Holder (in addition to the factory cupholder)
...and last but not least, a Palo Uber Wing Spolier Add-On


...and yes, I do have one of these mods
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by UKSUV
This was also take from my brake response.....
TAKEN FROM THE STOPTECH WEBSITE....

Which is better, slotted or drilled rotors?

StopTech provides rotors slotted, drilled or plain. For most performance applications slotted is the preferred choice. Slotting helps wipe away debris from between the pad and rotor as well as increasing the "bite" characteristics of the pad. A drilled rotor provides the same type of benefit, but is more susceptible to cracking under severe usage. Many customers prefer the look of a drilled rotor and for street and occasional light duty track use they will work fine. For more severe applications, we recommend slotted rotors.

Thanks UKSUV. I had read that, but evidently ignored it.

Anyone with extensive slotted rotor experience that can comment on life of brake pads vs OEM rotors and pads? Is it noticeably shorter? Change after 20K miles, 15K miles? Also, comment on your driving style (street, some track, lotsa track).

Thanks,
Scott
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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same boat as AZMCS...




done for now!
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by smportis
Ok, so I took Longboards 2 posts and combined them into 1 list of upgrades. I put a "+" to things he added in the next round, and a "-" to things he removed that he had previously paid good money for (and hopefully sold to some lucky individual).

Dang Longboard, how much do you have in your car? Care to put $$ by each item, or would that be depressing?

Impressive.

Stage 1
  • Alta CIA
  • Alta 15% pulley
  • RMW tune
  • One Ball Exhaust
  • Brake Upgrade
  • Rear Sway Bar 19mm or 22mm
  • Performance Wheels and Tires
Stage 2
  • - One Ball Exhaust
  • + Milltek Cat Back
  • + OBX Header
  • + JCW 380cc injectors
  • + Progressive Rate Springs
  • + Helix Rear Control Arm’s (Lower)
  • + RMW Tune
Stage 3
  • + Koni FSD’s
  • + GP Intercooler
  • - OBX Header
  • + RMW Header
  • - Milltek Cat Back
  • + RMW Cat Back
  • + RMW Head
  • - JCW 380cc Injectors
  • + RMW 440cc injectors
  • + RMW Tune
  • + Clutch
Stage 4
  • + OMP Upper Strut Bar (My Opinion The Best)
  • + OMP Lower Strut Bar
  • + Rear Drop Links
  • + Ireland Engineering Fixed Camber Plates
  • + Helix Control Arm’s (Lower)
  • + RMW Rotrex Kit
  • - GP Intercooler
  • + RMW Intercooler
  • + RMW Port Matched Intake
  • RMW Tune
Stage 5
  • - Progressive Rate Springs
  • + JIC Coilovers and Camber plates
  • + Helix Control arms - Upper
  • + RMW 2.0 L Crate Motor
  • + RMW Tune
  • + Water/Methanol Injection
That's just power. I have suspension and ton of things outside and in .

Playing with the Mini never depresses me. I never look back at money spent and say what if. Its a bad way to live. Look forward and keep on charging.

Longboard
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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Come on Kal,

If you are going to show all your cool toys you could at least clean it first . I can still see your finger prints on that MSD box.

Longboard

Originally Posted by kalbone
same boat as AZMCS...




done for now!
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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Got it done.... almost!!
15%
CAI
1-ball
Eletronic cut out
water/meth
.............

And then..

Thumper Ported Head ( w/ARP head studs)
Custom camshaft
Nitrous
Lowering kit
Stickey tires!

..... then a TUNE to bring it all together!!

Drive around all day on good MPG, and no wear and tear.. the spray the mess out of it and "walk the Dog"!! 250-275 WHP on demand!! ( Or more depends on what the dyno says...lol)

Just me...............................

Thumper
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
Come on Kal,

If you are going to show all your cool toys you could at least clean it first . I can still see your finger prints on that MSD box.

Longboard

damn! why does everyone notice that first..

how about this....

 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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Hmmm... I guess I went at things backwards. I wanted to be able to control any power additions before I started adding power, so I went at it like this:

Stage 1 - basic driveability
Upgraded brake pads (almost immediately)
rear swaybar
Cosmetic mods (gotta make it my own)

Stage 2 - control
Engine damper (TSW)
Lowering springs (TSW)
Front camber plates (IE Fixed)
Lower Control Arms
Good alignment
braces - rear tower, top and bottom front tower

Stage 3 - braking
BBK and other braking system upgrades (ss lines, brass bushings in the back)
Stickier tires

Stage 4 - power
Intake
Intercooler
Pully
Alta 2.5 exhaust
Other minor engine bay stuff

I'm at a power max for me and this car. I don't have the urge to 'go big' by delving into engine internals. I'm left with some control and cosmetic tweaks, though... lots of good ideas left to have fun.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kalbone
same boat as AZMCS...




done for now!
Ok, tell us about the Turbo pls.

Scott
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
That's just power. I have suspension and ton of things outside and in .

Playing with the Mini never depresses me. I never look back at money spent and say what if. Its a bad way to live. Look forward and keep on charging.

Longboard
No, I combined both lists - notice that the suspension stuff is in there too. I wasn't sure that you did "Stage 1 - Power" and "Stage 1 - Suspension" at the same time, but I took a calculated gamble that you did. I wanted to see your lists "combined" - as it was so impressive.

Does your car see the track Longboard?
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by smportis
Thanks UKSUV. I had read that, but evidently ignored it.

Anyone with extensive slotted rotor experience that can comment on life of brake pads vs OEM rotors and pads? Is it noticeably shorter? Change after 20K miles, 15K miles? Also, comment on your driving style (street, some track, lotsa track).

Thanks,
Scott
My factory brakes were shot at 18,000 miles - heavily grooved rotors and pad thickness was less than the backing. I had them replaced with Powerslot Cryo-temperd slotted rotors and Hawk Ceramic pads. 22,000 miles later and there is no appreciable wear. My driving is spirited street, no track near here.


I might as well lay out my plan, as per the thread's guidlines.

My car is to be a fast daily driver, I want to maintain and enhance the go-kart feel and road holding - handling is above all else.
Current mods:

Engine:
Alta CAI ver. 1.0
Alta 15% s/c pulley ver 2.0
Alta Oil catch can
Borla cat-back Exhaust - sport
Irridium spark plugs
8mm plug wires
Setrab oil cooler mounted with braided Aeroquip hose
Spec Stage 2 clutch, lightened model

Suspension:
Alta 22mm rear stabilizer bar
Alta rear endlinks
Powerflex front control arm bushings
Irreland Engineering adj. camber plates
Irreland Engineering adj. rear control arms (4)
Irreland Engineering Engine mount bushings - complete set
H&R 5mm wheel spacers

Brakes:
Powerslot Cryo-tempered slotted rotors
Hawk Ceramic pads
Goodrige SS lines
AE Super Blue fluid

Gauges:
Cyberdyne digital oil pressure and temperature gauges

Future mods:
Powerflex rear trailing arm bushings (sitting in a box in my garage)
RMW tune
later on,
RMW cylinder head
RMW header

I think that is all.
 

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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by smportis
No, I combined both lists - notice that the suspension stuff is in there too. I wasn't sure that you did "Stage 1 - Power" and "Stage 1 - Suspension" at the same time, but I took a calculated gamble that you did. I wanted to see your lists "combined" - as it was so impressive.

Does your car see the track Longboard?
Not yet but I will in April . I promised Danny (Mini Corsa) I would go.

Longboard
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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This post moved here as a thread starter:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...13#post2080913


Scott
 

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