>>Aquamist provides a nifty adjustable manifold pressure switch, typically set to start squirting at >10psi, for their water injection. That would be perfect for the Cryospray

The Aquamist is on my list of maybe's. Speaking of water, I also have the water sprayer on the intercooler also. I can now make ice cubes!

 

Bisch,

Thanks for clairfying the information on the cooling bar, it does make sense, with 90 degree angle it makes it would be nearly impossible to install the line.

Wouldn't it be nice to use the dead center button on the left handside of the multifunction steering wheel to spray ? just my two cents....

 

A big thanks to CCM for stopping by today to help me with another pic.
This is the gas "fog". The wind was blowing so it was not as impressive.

 

If you decide to market this little item, please let me know. Might make for an interesting surprise to a few cars on the track!

 

>>If you decide to market this little item, please let me know. Might make for an interesting surprise to a few cars on the track!

R

 

I know a wrx that used it on a dyno and they got 50 horses

 

That looks awesome! Kinda like a dragon

 

I want it!

Heck I don't need to beat a WRX...but I wouldn't mind some kind of spray that wouldn't harm MINI with occasional use that could lower temps enough to give a temp gain of 15-20 horses though! Sounds like you got even more than that!

THis would be perfect...

 

>>>>Aquamist provides a nifty adjustable manifold pressure switch, typically set to start squirting at >10psi, for their water injection. That would be perfect for the Cryospray
>>
>>The Aquamist is on my list of maybe's. Speaking of water, I also have the water sprayer on the intercooler also. I can now make ice cubes!
>>

NAPA - Hobbs Pressure Switch - P/N# 701-1575 - approx. $30

May be a cheaper and easier alternative to source than Aquamist.

 

Realistically, how much hp do you think you can gain with this?

You figure - you cool down the charge, make it more dense, and you should be able to get some good gains.

My mechanic is currently working on an application for my M3. I have a front mounted intercooler. We're going to install some nozzles and a couple of puller fans so that I can mist down the IC when at the track to help combat heat soak.

I'm curious as to what the MCS will gain with this mod.

awesome...

 

>>Realistically, how much hp do you think you can gain with this?
>>
>>You figure - you cool down the charge, make it more dense, and you should be able to get some good gains.
>>
>>My mechanic is currently working on an application for my M3. I have a front mounted intercooler. We're going to install some nozzles and a couple of puller fans so that I can mist down the IC when at the track to help combat heat soak.
>>
>>I'm curious as to what the MCS will gain with this mod.
>>
>>awesome...

I will get on the dyno asap. The best way to describe the power is this:
If you have the pulley upgrade,intake and exhaust, you know the increase in power felt, right? Well, now take that "felt" increase of power, and double it. That is what it feels like!

When you do a hole shot, you have a handful. Wheel spin is an issue. LSD and sticky rubber is a near must. I have the standard issue run flats (that WILL change). I loose grip all through first gear, especially when I get into the boost. If there is a speck of sand, damp pavement are a friggin' ant in the road, you will get spin. When you slam it to second, you get a nice long "weeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr-r-r-rt-t-t-t" before it hooks up. As for third gear...I'll let you know when I get there

null

 

Oh, and make sure to have ample supply of CO2.
I just bought another spare tank today

P.S. If you do this install, it is extremely important to have the intake box sealed from the engine compartment. CO2 does not burn. *cough* If you suck it up, you choke the motor. If you have a leak inside the vehicle, you choke as well. It will suffocate you. I always have the windows down when the bottle is open. When done, purge out the line and shut off the bottle. If you feel sleepy, GET OUT!

Motor On, or Move Over!

 

I am very interested in this and have been pondering this for awhile already. Do you notice any change in the power, or anything different?

Thanks for you input.

 

>>I am very interested in this and have been pondering this for awhile already. Do you notice any change in the power, or anything different?
>>
>>Thanks for you input.

Huh?? This seems like quite a silly question. He notices QUITE a difference in power, if i'm reading this correctly.

 

Hi Bisch, what does it cost you to refill to tanks with CO2?

Owen

 

>>Hi Bisch, what does it cost you to refill to tanks with CO2?
>>
>>Owen

From page one: "The 5lb bottle is good for about 2+ min. of spray. Hence the need for a spare. Refills are anywhere from $9-$19. Still a cheap thrill. "

 

>>From page one: "The 5lb bottle is good for about 2+ min. of spray. Hence the need for a spare. Refills are anywhere from $9-$19. Still a cheap thrill. "

Oh, ooops. My bad...

 

Ground-breakin' MINI news to me! Innovative work, Bisch. Thanks for sharing it all. :smile:

Q: Given it's breakin' loose all thru 1st, regardless of stickier sneakers, - would lighter wheels be even harder to get & keep under control?

Thanks much....

-s.b.

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MINI: The best horse for the buck!

 

>>Can you say which CryO2 system you used, - or offer some costs

He's running the CryO2 system from DEI. It's about $380 for the bottle/solenoid/wiring and another $85 for the sprayer attachment.


>>I'd like to see more on the ALTA Air Diverter mod too, - but more importantly, (as a mech. novice w/ great interest) I'd really like to know if a CAI mod is enough extra breathability for the CryO2 system install....

The CryO2 system is only freezing the OUTSIDE of the intercooler, as such, air flow is a moot issue with this system.


>>Will harm be done if running this system with the stock header & exhaust

There is no possible damage to the header or exhaust. Again, it is only freezing the intercooler, resulting is dramatically decreased air intake temperature.


>>Would it be best to employ the heavy S-Lites (sans runflats) when utilizing CryO2?

CryO2 has nothing to do with your wheels/rims. Granted, lighter is always better for acceleration, but even wheels made of bricks are not going to heat up the intake charge, the only possible situation where the CryO2 system would not be effective.


>>Given it's breakin' loose all thru 1st, regardless of stickier sneakers, - would lighter wheels be even harder to get & keep under control?

No, would be the same. It's the tires, not the rims, connecting with the ground.

R

 

Ryan,

I tend to disagree with the last two comments (which were really one in the same because the same question was pretty much asked twice). I think that greater pressure on the contact point will reduce wheelspin. However, what we're really after is acceleration and there heavier rims are a detriment. So there is probably some "ideal" rim weight (for a given tire) that will maximize acceleration when excessive wheel-spin is an issue.

As far as better rubber is concerned, he was using the "standard issue run-flats", so we don't know what improvements he'll see with stickier tires.

just my 2p (and yeah I know I sound like a grade-A geek)

Chuck

 

Ok, I had to leave town for two days (another 600 miles). My 3k rpm stumble showed it's ugly head! oh well, I hardly spend much time that low in the power band anyway. I'll wait for the "fix".
Wednesday I'll be taking my little beast to the dragstrip and hopefully the dyno too. As I have mentioned before, I'm not trying to make a drag car, but I just need some numbers...
I need to know how much interest there is for this kit. PM me if interested.

 

Anyone know what California thinks about this mod. I mean it is external to the engine and, in theory, you wouldn't have to touch any of the stock engine components, except that you might want to throw on a CARB approved intake.

Would this be Cal. legal?

 

>>Anyone know what California thinks about this mod. I mean it is external to the engine and, in theory, you wouldn't have to touch any of the stock engine components, except that you might want to throw on a CARB approved intake.
>>
>>Would this be Cal. legal?

You are not changing anything in the airstream of the engine. It is 100% external. All you are doing is cooling your intercooler. Then again, this is CA...so, some political p!ss-ant might wag his little finger at it.

 

what up guys,
would it make any sense at all to implement this into a Cooper?
instead of ontop of the intercooler, mount the system on the stock radiator?
Id probably not get much more horses out of though, or?

let me know

thanks

peter

 

>>what up guys,
>>would it make any sense at all to implement this into a Cooper?
>>instead of ontop of the intercooler, mount the system on the stock radiator?
>>Id probably not get much more horses out of though, or?
>>
>>let me know
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>peter


No, you wouldnt see any difference.

The idea on the S model is to supercool the incoming air through the intercooler going into the motor. Cooler air is denser. Denser air has more oxygen per cylinder stroke. More oxygen in the cylinders means you can burn more fuel. More fuel means more power.

Spraying the rad would do nothing....sorry.