Good gnatster, so to close this, how much did the GP cost you and how should I get it? Mini dealers?

 

I happened upon a used one. MINI does not offer the GP IC unless you have a GP. Keep your eyes open for a used one for sale on ebay or on this forum, they do pop up now and again.

Oh yeah, there was a guy selling some in Europe, haven't seen him post for a while though.

 

Good, I'll call my Mini dealer and ask him to save me one. I have just two questions:
Any estimated price? I dont wanna get fooled.
Is it really different than the JCW's or the stock's?

 

Marwan,

Intercoolers are a crucial part of the Mini, as they are with any forced induction car. The DFIC can be a very promising IC if utilized correctly.
Many here are right that you will feel a better power gain with a simple and less expensive pulley, but you should not abandon the thought of the DFIC and it's gains.
If in fact you drive in hotter weather then I would also push you to really consider the DFIC, and would also push you to consider the M7 rear exit hood vent.
Quite a while ago we did test on the effects of cold air through the IC and saw gains (or recoveries as some would say) of close to 20 hp.
Understand that the IC has become quite the hot topic here on NAM. You should also note that there are quite a few here on NAM that just have it out for M7 and that would love it if no one ever made another purchase from them, so you really need to read through the threads here very carefully so you can get a little perspective on who to put your faith in. I would suggest that you review all post for the last few months of the people who are posting on this thread.
This is not at all saying that ones that tell you NOT to get the DFIC are anti M7 nor aftermarket ICs. Some have some very good points.
Big investment for sure. I would say that most of us that ended up with aftermarket ICs usually purchased them after we did quite a few other mods to our cars. But back then we were limited to the same ol top mounts. If the DFIC had been out three years ago it would have been closer to the top on my list.
Take your time and get the facts, though they are quite cloudy still. Good luck

 

i saw a gp intercooler on ebay today

 

Facts I've found about DFIC vs GP IC, I have owned then both.

Same track, 3 weeks apart. Weather was very much the same. Only change to the car was the IC although I did add louvers to the hood.

I data log all my track days. I noticed I cut on avg 2.5 seconds off a lap. The difference was show in the areas under acceleration out of corners. By the end of the straight I was constantly going 3-4 mph faster then the previous weekend. Not only that but it stayed consistent throughout the session. With the DFIC as the session progressed I found I was loosing time. With cornering speeds at the same level. I was slower to accelerate out of the corners, This possibly could attributed to heat soak, but since I do not track or log IC inlet and exit temps I cannot say with 100% certainty. This ability to track and log inlet and outlet temps is something I plan on adding.

I have no beef with most M7 products, in fact some are very good, best in class even. This one, in my opinion, has better options.

 

guy in Europe (member here) = guy on ebay. that's where I bought mine...showed up from Austria in less than a week. I had the DFIC and Alta V1 - neither fit like the GP (OEM after all).

 

I still vote for a smaller SC pulley.

A mild nitrous oxide injection set-up to act as an instant intercooler could be nice for him too.

Jeremy

 

Same deal here.

 

maybe an no2 or co2 or h20 sprayer on the intercooler, not in the intake system

 

Ahhhh why not in the intake....hehe If he sticks with the stock SC pulley he'd be ok with a low volume spray.

Jeremy

 

I can't think of a quicker way to kill an engine than NAWS

 

 

Hi Bob, I do live in Saudi where street racing or drag racing is not allowed but we still find our ways to!

Nitros is not on my list at all because I use my Mini as the daily drive and I'll never sacrefice my engine's life, that's why you see me asking too much before making a decision especially if it's an aftermarket product. I have my conservative opinion and I do not want to hit my Mini to top HP or push it to it's limits. I beleive in the formula "more HP=less car lifetime".

If I'm able to spend on the engine tuning something around $3000 and reach an accelration of somewhere around 5.X seconds I'll be so happy and I'll move my attention to stability and body kits. I just want to be able to kick all cars equipped with engines double or tripple my car's cc, we're talking about 6cyl upto 4L engines here.

Also, I'll never make my car look as a modified one, authoroties stop cars modified hoods and bumpers and investigate with drivers.

Bottom line, I want to have the "beast under a beauty". Hope you get my hard to reach concept ...

 

we call it a 'sleeper' or 'Q car' - one that looks normal but has tons more power than stock.

Talk to Jan at RMW.....you can easily do a ton more power and still look stock under the hood. GP intercooler, RMW 'Jesus' head and RMW header, plus a pulley and tune (harder for you to do in Saudi). It will look stock under the hood, but easily do 80+ hp over stock (50% improvment). He's even got a 2.0L stroker kit in development.

We've not seen any hard data on the new DFIC to know if it helps or hurts things (the V1 got really hot to the touch). The blurb on M7's site about the DFIC being used on a car that makes tons of power - that car has some of the RMW stuff mentioned above. Technically, an intercooler doesn't make power, only preserve it.

 

clearly you haven't seen 1320 autos car over here then! running 140 shot i think. he dose have forged pistons though.

 

I have the M7 DFICv2 intercooler and I have to say I really like it allot. I've had the stock and the Alta top mount IC's. I have to say with the M7 I notice the car spool up faster and smoother than it did with the Alta top mount.

I don't track my car so I can't provide an opinion as to how it performs on the track at really high consistent temps. I do know that I notice a difference driving the car on spirited canyons runs and street launches.

I will have to agree with above posters tho, you will get more bang for your buck going with a pulley first. I would certainly start there and see if you experience heat issues then decide what to do from there.

 

Ask Paul about his snapped axles sometime....

 

actually this was from his clutch

this was from the NOS....

 

/\ forged piston? or the stock one??

 

that's a stocker

 

got a spare one like that I can hang in my garage? don't care to DIY that one

 

I just talked to Jan, I think we have some understanding lol.

 

Marwan, you just stepped into a huge pile of $H!^ by asking that first question within NAM. Does the DFIC work? Yes is does, and it starts working fast. These Nam M7 haters kept me from buying a DFIC for a year or so. Don't listen to them. I promise, If you don't like it, M7 will take it back. It made my car drive much better. I can drive up my steep hill in front of my house without down shifting where as before I had to. Try the Areogel blankets as well they work great! Heat sink takes its toll.

 

you call them people above M7 haters.. so can I call u a m7 fanboy or m7 salesman in disguise? rly.