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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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Pulled this from Mini2.

up to '04
1 42
2 67
3 90
4 110
5 133
6 135

'05 on
1 38
2 62
3 86
4 105
5 127
6 138
 
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by High3nd
really? one thing i do find odd are the gear ratios on minis, wish they were a bit better. are they better on 05+?
Yes - the gear ratios were revised starting with the '05 model to give better acceleration.

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Well if we're going to go to AutoX then there certainly are Cooper drivers that'll kick Ss and many other higher HP cars butts when it comes to competitive times. And I've even heard it remarked the Cooper is better off in AutoX because it's so much lighter.
I don't know that I'd say the Cooper is "better" than the 'S' for autocrossing, although it's certainly cheaper from an initial-cost standpoint.

Assuming equivalently-skilled drivers, the 'S' will generally post better RAW *and* PAX times, and if you're trying to be competitive at a regional/national level, you're MUCH better off with an 'S' in G-Stock than are with a Cooper in H-Stock (although a Cooper DID take 2nd in H-Stock at Nationals this year )
 
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Motor On
05+ they're shorter so accelration is better, but its a higher RPM and lower MPG and more drone on the long high hauls, I wish they left 6th longer.
or maybe a 7th
 
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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7th would be nice, occasionally I try and see if I can find it, but never can, only hit 5th.
 
Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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7th would be nice, occasionally I try and see if I can find it, but never can, only hit 5th.
I'm not alone!
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:01 AM
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I was hoping I wasn't the only one trying to find 7th.
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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I don't grab for 7th too often in the MINI, but I do it all the time on my motorcycle, because it's geared so short that 70MPH in 6th gear is ~4700 RPM.
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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What the heck do you guys normally drive that has a 7th?

I find myself starting to shift to 6th in all of the 5-speeds I drive, which.. Could be bad.
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:23 AM
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For some reason I want the rpm's to be a bit lower when just cruising on the freeway, at 65 it's ~3k which is fairly low but I want ~2k-2.5k I think that would be a nice cruising rpm.

Either that or I forget what gear I'm in and want to get the rpm's down and am trying for 6th.
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 04:09 AM
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I spent a few hours last night out on the open road, zipping around in that 100 to 130 mph range. I have to agree -- it's all about the gears. Leaving it in sixth, and yeah, it'll slowly work it's way back up, but dropping to 5th and, better still, 4th, make s abig, big difference. Just holding sixth feels sluggish.

From time to time, I run into someone with the big horses and a heavier foot and, sure, they get up and go so much taster than I can. And that's fine - there's fast, and then there's scary fast. Most days, most stretches of the autobahn, most conditions, I'm happy up to 130+, and on great days maybe 145, but by then I'm asking my R53 to be all that it can be.

And it is comforting knowing, with some degree of certainty, that the other drivers on the road will follow the rules, staying to the right, etc. I can't even imagine what would happen were they to lift / remove speed limits in the States. Smoking and drinking a Big Gulp while pushing 120 just doesn't work.
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 04:16 AM
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It took me a long time to be able to confidently shift into 6th, especially since my other vehicle has reverse located underneath 5th. . .
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 04:29 AM
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Not in your wildest dreams...

The Vette could beat a Mini in 6th...I down shifted this Z06 into 4th at around 70 and it launched me into the horizon like I was shot out of a cannon...You'd need Tul's Mini to do this job...

 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 05:06 AM
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Buy an R56....they are a lot faster!
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 05:22 AM
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To the OP,
Did you consider that the 'Vette might have been tweaked a bit, too? Just 'cause they come stock with a big stable of ponies tucked under the hood doesn't mean their owners can't add a few extra ones, just like we do. So maybe it wasn't your car.
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 05:26 AM
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Did you consider that the 'Vette might have been tweaked a bit, too? Just 'cause they come stock with a big stable of ponies tucked under the hood doesn't mean their owners can't add a few extra ones, just like we do. So maybe it wasn't your car.
straight line... vette vs. mcs... come on. a stock vette will run away from a decently modded mini. you're going to have to have over 250whp and 200tq to even barely keep pace.
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 06:25 AM
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Based on all the feedback we received on moderation I'm planning to allow the excessive speeding threads to self-moderate. Just like we've seen elsewhere if you post about driving way fast you'll receive the wrath of other members thereby self-moderating the thread. In fact I've been reworking the site guidelines to reflect this (new guidelines haven't relaunched yet):

I agree to take it to the track
Take your need for speed to the track. No street racing or high speed bragging unless you want to experience, first hand, the wrath of other community members.
Regardless everyone has moved on in this thread so no need to lock it or do anything else.

Thanks

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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 06:28 AM
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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[quote=Motor On;1888164] I only occasionally hit 5th on the backstech @ Sebring and that was up at the mentioned speeds.
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MotorOn: you need a better launch off of turn 16! i'm at my 7400 rpm redline halfway down the backstretch. also in 5th at the second walkover bridge on the front straight and before the bridge exiting turn 6. come join us MINI track junkies at Sebring.
 

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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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I agree with one of the comments here that you should have been in the 4th instead of 5th gear coming from 6th. C6 Corvette ? not on straight but maybe on short & twisty track.
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Motor On
Well if we're going to go to AutoX then there certainly are Cooper drivers that'll kick Ss and many other higher HP cars butts when it comes to competitive times. And I've even heard it remarked the Cooper is better off in AutoX because it's so much lighter.

It also greatly has to do with the better traction they get (less power/tq )
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by High3nd
ohh yea, acually i made this all up. it was a dream, none of this happened. just delete this thread.
Can we just delete you.........?

Check the forum guidelines, no posting of illegal activities related to driving is allowed. That is why all of the ibtl tags.

You really think you should be able to stay with a 'vette........
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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Buy an R56....they are a lot faster!
but they suck. Yessssss figured a way to get into this one.

mb
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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Okey so here is why the MINI would never stand a chance, (and by the way who honestly cares?)

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Photography by James Brown
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Can you wrap your mind around the concept of a factory-issued, fully warranted 200-mph Corvette that'll hit 100 mph in the low sevens and run mid- or low 11s in the quarter? Okay, none of those numbers is official yet. The car is still undergoing wind-tunnel testing and final engine tuning. But sources say a prototype with full camo flapping in the high-speed breeze has driven well into the 190s, and our pocket Cray supercomputer says that at 200 mph this Vette would be spinning at or just past its power peak in fifth gear, which seems plausible.

More...

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Haha our slalom speed is better
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by High3nd
with barley any cars on the freeway.
What, they don't count as being potential victims?

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and yes i know what i did was taboo. but sometimes you just feel like speeding and you cant help it. especially when you got someone egging you on it sure doesnt help being responsible.
Can you explain how being responsible does not help

Mark
 
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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whats this responsibility you speak of?
 



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