Has anyone ran the Super AFC. on their cars and had it tuned. Because Im thinking maybe I should go this route for all of my modifications.

I have a reliable tuner, so do you guys think it will work just as well as the unichip or other aftermarket products made for the mini.

 

it's a band aid fix at best.... be patient there are tunes coming that will be available

 

I will be using the Apexi NEO with my turbo build

 

why is it a bandaid fix.
correct me if Im wrong but apex is a fully programmable piggy back, and if thats the case then how is it going to be different from any of the chips out in the market right now.

 

it only allows air/fuel adjustment on the Mini

 

Maybe Im going to sound like an idiot, but what else do you need to be able to adjust

 

Timing, Throttle Response, fuel trims, etc.

 

Apexi NEO does allow adjustment of fuel trim as well.

 

Still no timing, Rev Limiter, or Throttle Response Access though .

 

Depends on what you want to do! The APEX product is a great way to mod for larger fuel injectors, turbos and larger pulleys. We recently did a great tune with this product on an MCS with larger pulley, water injcetion etc.

You can read more about it here!
For clients looking to do something similar with either water or the APEX products we have both in stock. Hope that helps a bit!

Good luck!

 

Very true, but for 9 out of 10 people the Apexi will do what is needed. Don't get me wrong, standalone is a far superior option as far as tuneablity. I am headed there soon, but the Apexi is not bad at what it does.

 

throttle response??

I donno what kind of tune that is, but I know for a fact that the one thing I feel the mini lacks is throttle response. Its one of the slowest revving cars Ive ever been in. Anyways.

But the safc does have a throttle tune on it. I just dont know if it is the same thing or not. Most standalone ecu are known to be better because they have more frames than other ecu's. I do feel though that super afc does have everything that a normal standalone has except the frames.

anyways can someone tell me what the throttle response tune is. I just thought the more power you make or more air you bring in the response just gets better.

 

Well the AFS has 2 throttle points at which the maps as far as trim or AFR are applied, but it doesn't affect throttle positioning or timing retard etc like a standalone would do. What are your goals? I run a turbo setup with the NEO and it does just dandy for me, so wondering if a true standalone may be overkill for you.....

 

I too am considering picking up an Apex'i NEO and getting it dyno-tuned by a buddy of mine. It's a relatively inexpensive option that provides results. In my case I'd be all in at well under $500 including dyno-time and the tune...

 

band aid fix? you are nutz! I guess Tuls has been band aiding his car for over a year making what... about 400hp?

this wonderful device has been aroudn forever... on cars making close to 400 hp. For most people it is the most affordable and efficent way of tuning there cars!

Yes standalones are better... but come on... not everyone drives drag cars for turbo cars etc... for the most part we are talking about guys with I/H/E amd a pulley...

get real

 

 

LMFAO.. wtf mate? What is that it's hilarious!!

 

it's the only fitting answer I have to all of this.... LOL

 

it's a band aid... when you can do timing, rev limit , idle set etc then I will agree

 

This mini is going to be a track car for me. I have a vafc for my s2000 and am planning on running the same thing for my mini. The thing is everyone is buying unichip and all these different chips for there mini's Im totally confused on what Im looking for now. Is there some kind of hidden power unleashed from these chips or can I just get the afc and do the tune and get similar results.

-like I said I hate the response on my mini. Its slow as heck.

Im looking to modify my mini and getting it tuned with the super afc so it can safely stay redline throughout my track events, but if this unichip or other brands of chips and ecu are better and safer, then Im probably just going to go that route.

this is the first time Im going to be working on a european car and Im just being cautious of what Im doing. I thought I knew what I was going to do with the car when I got it (because I always thought that all cars are the same) but now that Im surfing through this forum Im freaking myself out.

 

The S-AFC will net you good results even on a slightly modified MCS, Tuls has proven this many times before (search up threads there are a couple on the subject). IMO this is the way to go unless you want to get your car custom tuned by LDG, Fireballed, and I think RMW tunes as well. These tunes modify the actual stock mapping and they tune EVERYTHING and anything you want. But if you're not close to either, which is the case for many, I'd personally go with an S-AFC, in fact, I will be soon...

 

the afc will NOT help with throttle response, so if this is what you are after then look elsewhere

 

Patience is wearing thin for some of us. Had my car since '02, its been 5 years already.......

 

drive down to Maryland to LDG then

 

what the heck does that mean. I dont get it.
Wouldnt the car naturally be more responsive when I put on maybe an intake exhaust, header, and test pipe. Maybe even a light weight flywheel. It just feels like the engine is being very restricted as a stock car. Or is the response slow because it is being held back by the ecu?
and will a preset chip fix this problem, if it is.