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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 04:43 AM
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43ºF and Prima

Is this too cold for Swirl, Amigo, and Epic to work properly (or at all)? Today is the only day I'm really going to have a chance in the next week or more to clean up my MINI, and the timeframe I have to work the temp is suppposed to be between 43º and 47º F. Will Epic properly cure at all at this temperature, what if I let it cure for more then the recommended cure time?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 05:34 AM
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Jeremy,

You might want to park the car in the sunshine for a while to warm the paint up. I believe you can even apply the Swirl and Amigo in the sunlight. Just pull it in the shade when you put on the Epic.

Maybe Richard or one of the other detailing gurus will chime in before too long.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy1026
Is this too cold for Swirl, Amigo, and Epic to work properly (or at all)? Today is the only day I'm really going to have a chance in the next week or more to clean up my MINI, and the timeframe I have to work the temp is suppposed to be between 43º and 47º F. Will Epic properly cure at all at this temperature, what if I let it cure for more then the recommended cure time?

yah, zero cure time needed. use Hydro. after using this a couple of
times i am no longer going to be waxing my car other than during the fall
as protection through winter.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
yah, zero cure time needed. use Hydro.
Oh stop it.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Chili Red & Pepper White
Jeremy,

You might want to park the car in the sunshine for a while to warm the paint up. I believe you can even apply the Swirl and Amigo in the sunlight. Just pull it in the shade when you put on the Epic.

Maybe Richard or one of the other detailing gurus will chime in before too long.
I actually dont even have shade to park in...I have to put up a tent to shade my car. The bottles on Swirl and Amigo say don't work in direct sunlight. So, I guess I'll let the paint cook for a few hours, hope Heather or Richard jump in, and then hopefully have a field day
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 05:50 AM
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Well then, if the bottles say that... don't work in the light !

As far as the temp goes, it just means you're going to have to let the products cure longer before removing. But hey... you have all day, right ?
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Chili Red & Pepper White
Well then, if the bottles say that... don't work in the light !

As far as the temp goes, it just means you're going to have to let the products cure longer before removing. But hey... you have all day, right ?
Alllllll Day!! And quertmonkey is sucking up all my bandwith so the internet is sucking today too
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 06:13 AM
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Then hopefully you'll be posting up to the minute pics and comments.

For Instance; Jeremy1026: It's 11am and I'm now preparing to apply Hydro per Ken. Ooooooo~ application nozzle very easy on the index finger, good coverage with just one pull. Even outside, the aroma pleasant to the nose.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BlimeyCabrio
Oh stop it.
oh you know you want some of this stuff.


Originally Posted by Ords
Then hopefully you'll be posting up to the minute pics and comments.

For Instance; Jeremy1026: It's 11am and I'm now preparing to apply Hydro per Ken. Ooooooo~ application nozzle very easy on the index finger, good coverage with just one pull. Even outside, the aroma pleasant to the nose.
and finished the car in 5min! woohoo~. now time to go motoring!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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oh you know you want some of this stuff.
Already have it. Almost out... but GEEESH - you're pushing like you're still getting DP points or something.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy1026
Is this too cold for Swirl, Amigo, and Epic to work properly (or at all)? Today is the only day I'm really going to have a chance in the next week or more to clean up my MINI, and the timeframe I have to work the temp is suppposed to be between 43º and 47º F. Will Epic properly cure at all at this temperature, what if I let it cure for more then the recommended cure time?
Originally Posted by Chili Red & Pepper White
You might want to park the car in the sunshine for a while to warm the paint up... Just pull it in the shade when you put on the Epic.
Chili R & PW is right... if it's sunny out it will help to warm up the paint a bit in the sun. Just pull it in the shade for applications (ideally- read on). If you're able, it would actually help the most to put it in the sun for a bit between each product, but you can probably get away with not doing it if you have to.

All of the products will be stiffer to work with in the cold temps, especially Swirl, but they will work just fine. If you remove the lid of Swirl and put it in the microwave for 30 seconds (or less if your microwave is powerful), it'll help it from being quite as stiff as you work it. Just don't boil it or get it really hot... the idea is to just warm it a small bit.

Swirl and Amigo do not require any wait time or cure time in any temps, so just buff off/remove them normally (right away).

For Epic, you're right- the cold temps just mean that you will have to wait much longer before you buff off/remove it. It really hard to say for sure, but I'd aim for 2 hours if you can. Do the swipe test before removing just to be sure.

Even though it's best to apply Epic in the shade, with temps that low it wouldn't be the end of the world to apply it in the sun... it depends on how intense your sunlight is today.

Ideally, park the car in the sun to warm it up a bit, then pull into shade (depending on your sun intensity), then pull it out into the sun again to cure. You DON'T want to do this in temps above 60, but in the mid-40s you should be just fine. (I just like to mention stuff like that to avoid confusing the uninitiated and such)

I'll try to keep an eye on the forum in case you have more questions, but always feel free to call if you want too! Good luck!

-Heather
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BlimeyCabrio
Already have it. Almost out... but GEEESH - you're pushing like you're still getting DP points or something.

i think i get deductions for decreasing Epic sales ().


btw, you guys need to try WheelShield next. i tried it on my black, faded
license plate frame last night after a quick polish with ScratchX... the plate
frame was off my old car and was sitting in the garage the last 4 yrs.

wow... looks super brand new again.
now the frame's on my MCS!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
btw, you guys need to try WheelShield next. i tried it on my black, faded
license plate frame last night after a quick polish with ScratchX... the plate
frame was off my old car and was sitting in the garage the last 4 yrs.

wow... looks super brand new again.
now the frame's on my MCS!
Thanks for posting the idea, Kenchan! I can see how that would be a good application of Wheel Shield (which is also Prima, for those you didn't know that).

Thanks!
Heather
 
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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Thanks for posting the idea, Kenchan! I can see how that would be a good application of Wheel Shield (which is also Prima, for those you didn't know that).

Thanks!
Heather
np! i was amazed how well WheelShield spread and how easily it wiped off.
I thought it was more of a cream but no, it's very fluid and easy to apply
with some cotton polishing towels I had. im going to do my wheels
this coming weekend!

I did a quick buff and it might've been just my eyes but it seemed like it
got brighter and brighter as i was working on putting it on my MCS. it
almost looks like the black has a fresh wet clear on it.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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I tried, for the first time, Clarity. Not on my car, but on my bb using glass MF.

Cleaned up real nicely, so also tried it on our computer screens, my synth LCD screens,
keyboards, mac, and a couple more things.

I like how there is no scent and very pure.... almost organic.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Typically you shouldn't use glass cleaning products on LCD screens (or even older monitors with anti-glare coatings). I wonder if clarity is somehow safer? But then I would expect it to be weak at cleaning, which it is not.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jwardell
Typically you shouldn't use glass cleaning products on LCD screens (or even older monitors with anti-glare coatings). I wonder if clarity is somehow safer? But then I would expect it to be weak at cleaning, which it is not.
yah, back in the early 90's that was true.

heather mentioned it was okay to use on LCD's. you think i
would wipe my $400 brand new blackberry if it wasnt?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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If she said it is good, then go for it. I thought you were talking about some 40-inch LCD TV or something anyway...might think twice about that!
Knowing you I'm surprised you didn't dunk you blackberry in Hydro.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
heather mentioned it was okay to use on LCD's. you think i
would wipe my $400 brand new blackberry if it wasnt?
Yes, it's true! Prima Clarity is safe to use on LCDs, plasmas, nav screens, etc.

It's also true that you should be careful what you put on these surfaces... there are several products out there that are still unsafe. Luckily, there are also safe ones too. Clarity is one of them!

-Heather
 
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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heather- wheelsheild over hydro advise please (emailed today).
 
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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i tried Clarity on my G today and the glass MF towel definitely glides
better than Griot's WindowCleaner. i'll have to drive against the sun
to see how clear Clarity really is but so far so good.

i also tried the new Prima spray head on my Hydro. definitely nice.
MUCH more volume per shot. thanks again, heather!
 
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