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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by S Curvz
How much of there wash do you use? A bottle last me about 8 washes....If you fallow the dosing.

BTW, because you mod your griots stuff, do you have any pictures of your cart mods?
that's a 16oz bottle and 1oz to a gallon... I have a 6 gallon Griots
wash bucket which i fill up to about 5.3 - 5.5gallons... so 5.5x3 = 16.5oz.

i get barely 3 washes out of that little container. and i already
used one shot. 2 more shots left.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:48 AM
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Ohh, I thought(or it used to be) 1 oz for 2 gallon, so I used two oz and filled the bucket to the 4 gallon mark, right above the grate. Okay, I understand now.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by S Curvz
Ohh, I thought(or it used to be) 1 oz for 2 gallon, so I used two oz and filled the bucket to the 4 gallon mark, right above the grate. Okay, I understand now.

you might have the old 16oz bottle? but the one I have has
the 1oz markings on the side of the bottle so you can just pour it in and
watch how much you poured. it's a great idea...

although, i have a separate cup to measure 5oz... it's the cup i got off
my laundry soap refill container. perfect size.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
you might have the old 16oz bottle? but the one I have has
the 1oz markings on the side of the bottle so you can just pour it in and
watch how much you poured. it's a great idea...

although, i have a separate cup to measure 5oz... it's the cup i got off
my laundry soap refill container. perfect size.
My bottle has lines too, but I wonder if I have older dirrections...they changed them on your bottle so you buy more soap.

Maybe I am just wrong and should reread the dirrections...
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by S Curvz
My bottle has lines too, but I wonder if I have older dirrections...they changed them on your bottle so you buy more soap.
maybe... hey, wanted to ask... do you use those dispenser
pumps for your carwash? Is that any good? I got their spout for
the SpeedShine gallon bottle and like it a lot, but i think the car wash
is too thick for it to run through the spout and need to use the pump.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
maybe... hey, wanted to ask... do you use those dispenser
pumps for your carwash? Is that any good? I got their spout for
the SpeedShine gallon bottle and like it a lot, but i think the car wash
is too thick for it to run through the spout and need to use the pump.
I think it depend on the bottle, not the liquid. I used to just use a funnel, but I order some of the spouts and like that alot better.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by S Curvz
I think it depend on the bottle, not the liquid. I used to just use a funnel, but I order some of the spouts and like that alot better.
so let me get this straight.... you use the spout instead of the pump
for your 1gal carwash container?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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other way around. The old 1 gallon bottles used the pump, the new ones use the spout. I used up all the old gallons. And if the stuff I am ordering does not come in a new bottle, I ask for one...
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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gotcha!
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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I use the gallon bottles as well. The catalog specifically says that the car wash soap requires that you use the pump rather than the spout. I have a mix of the "old" and "new" bottles, as well as both pumps and spouts. Either top works with either bottle, except that the car wash soap is too thick for the spout.

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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by riquiscott
I use the gallon bottles as well. The catalog specifically says that the car wash soap requires that you use the pump rather than the spout. I have a mix of the "old" and "new" bottles, as well as both pumps and spouts. Either top works with either bottle, except that the car wash soap is too thick for the spout.

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Hum, Makes me think...
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MLWagner79
Is it weird that I have Griot's RO on my Christmas list?
try Coastal Tool first. Same thing for 1/2 the price .

And no, the Griot's RO is not specially made for Griot's, at least not in any mechanical way.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by aiiee
try Coastal Tool first. Same thing for 1/2 the price .

And no, the Griot's RO is not specially made for Griot's, at least not in any mechanical way.
That's not a bad price for the PC on Coastal Tool... I like the bundle that Detailers Paradise offers, too... It's just about the same price when you factor in the additional pads, and that way you support a NAM sponsor.

I'll definitely be checking out Coastal Tool for some other things I need, though - thaks for the tip!

As for Griot's RO, it's similar to a PC but not exactly the same, from what I've seen. It has a different handle (it's on the top, not on the side) and it has a vent thingie that S Curves said they claimed was used to cool the back of the pad... Someone else claimed that was bollocks and the vent was for some sort of woodworking add-on that directed air to a filter or something... Who knows?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by aiiee
try Coastal Tool first. Same thing for 1/2 the price .

And no, the Griot's RO is not specially made for Griot's, at least not in any mechanical way.
The new Griot's RO is only $129, so the PC on Coastal Tool isn't much cheaper anymore - $10 or $20 depending on which version of the PC 7424 you get.

The Griot's catalogue says this about their new polisher:

"Our new Random Orbital took over a year to develop. It features all the wonderful attributes of our old orbital and offers even more, for less money."

That, combined with the obvious differences in the handle, vent, and backing plate lead me to believe that the Griot's polisher is more than just an off-the-shelf Porter Cable.

I don't really care one way or the other - I'm a rotary polisher kind of guy, and I use an old battleaxe DeWalt DW849 for my polishing needs.

Scott
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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i believe Hitachi makes the Griot's RO. it's a great unit and i enjoy
using it.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by riquiscott
I use the gallon bottles as well. The catalog specifically says that the car wash soap requires that you use the pump rather than the spout. I have a mix of the "old" and "new" bottles, as well as both pumps and spouts. Either top works with either bottle, except that the car wash soap is too thick for the spout.

Scott
i noticed that too, on their catalog. i donno...since it already has a
handle, wouldn't it be easier just to pour it into the measuring cup
than pumping it out each time? or wait, im loosing out on the coolness
factor... silly me. the bottle needs to accomondate the garage.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
i noticed that too, on their catalog. i donno...since it already has a
handle, wouldn't it be easier just to pour it into the measuring cup
than pumping it out each time? or wait, im loosing out on the coolness
factor... silly me. the bottle needs to accomondate the garage.
A full gallon bottle of car wash can be a little unwieldly when you're trying to pour it into a small measuring cup, but it wouldn't be unmanageable.

I have all of my gallon bottles lined up on a counter, and it's real easy to just carry my wash bucket over to the counter, hold it under the pump nozzle, and give it four quick pumps. That gives me just the right amount of soap, and I don't have to measure anything, or lift or move the bottle.

I do prefer the spouts to the pumps, though. With the thinner liquids like the wheel cleaner, rubber cleaner, and Speedshine, dispensing them using the pump causes them to foam up, so I can't fill the bottles all the way up. Not really a big deal one way or the other, though.

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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by riquiscott
A full gallon bottle of car wash can be a little unwieldly when you're trying to pour it into a small measuring cup, but it wouldn't be unmanageable.

I have all of my gallon bottle lined up on a counter, and it's real easy to just carry my wash bucket over to the counter, hold it under the pump nozzle, and give it a quick four pumps. That gives me the right amount of soap, and I don't have to lift or move the bottle.

I do prefer the spouts to the pumps, though. With the thinner liquids like the wheel cleaner, rubber cleaner, and Speedshine, dispensing them using the pump causes them to foam up, so I can't fill the bottles all the way up. Not really a big deal one way or the other, though.

Scott

Scott

you're probably right. i was thinking of a weight of a gallon of milk but
the car soap's going to be much heavier then that. I'll get the pump when
i order the gal of their car wash.

Do the spouts leak at all? I recently got the spout for my Speedshine,
but since i need to shake it anyway before refilling my spray bottles that
i have the gal jugs standing upright.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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I store the square gallon bottles on their side, so the spouts are "under pressure" all the time, and I haven't had any leakage.

You said you shake the Speedshine gallon before refilling your sprayer - have you had problems with settling if you don't shake it first?

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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by riquiscott
I store the square gallon bottles on their side, so the spouts are "under pressure" all the time, and I haven't had any leakage.

You said you shake the Speedshine gallon before refilling your sprayer - have you had problems with settling if you don't shake it first?

Scott

thanks for the info. yah, i get like a white color layer at the top of
the pastel blue color of speedshine...so i need to shake it to mix it together.

the sprayer bottle (35oz) also says to shake well, so i assumed i need to
shake the gal jug too, before i refill the bottles.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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does anyone know how much liquid a pump pushes out? I just bought the gallon car wash (ouch my wallet) and the pump. I dont want to waste any of it and plan on trying to go for 2 oz and 2 gallons. I dont think a mini needs 4 oz and 4 galons if I use a two bucket method. shrugs? trying to conserve!

You should see my griot's shelf. damn. i spent a chunk.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by El_Jefe
does anyone know how much liquid a pump pushes out? I just bought the gallon car wash (ouch my wallet) and the pump. I dont want to waste any of it and plan on trying to go for 2 oz and 2 gallons. I dont think a mini needs 4 oz and 4 galons if I use a two bucket method. shrugs? trying to conserve!

You should see my griot's shelf. damn. i spent a chunk.
First, the proper ratio is one ounce of soap to two gallons of water, not 1:1, so that will save you soap right there.

I went out to the garage and pumped out eight ounces of soap to get a more-accurate average. It took ten full strokes to get eight ounces of soap, so figure about 0.8 ounces of soap per pump.

I don't know how big your bucket is, but if you use two pumps' worth of soap and a little over three gallons of water, you should be in good shape.

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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Intriguing. hm. I shall test mine as well. THat stuff is mad thick. It is quite interesting. Smells like coconut
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by riquiscott
First, the proper ratio is one ounce of soap to two gallons of water, not 1:1, so that will save you soap right there.
i checked my little 16oz bottle and you're right, it is 1oz for 2 gallons
of water.

so... it looks like i got not 2, but 4 more shots before the container is
empty! last time i used it, it was 2x the usual strength
of carwash per Griot's recommendation before claying/polishing... that
plus Meg's Goldclass being 1:1, i think i got mixed up. i haven't used
the Griot's wash since.

1oz for 2 gal of water for Griots
1oz for 1 gal of water for GoldClass

1oz for 1gal of water for Griots if you're going to prep the car (per
Griot's recommendation) for clay/polish/wax. you'll still need to
use PaintPrep or dish soap if you plan on changing waxes.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by El_Jefe
does anyone know how much liquid a pump pushes out? I just bought the gallon car wash (ouch my wallet) and the pump. I dont want to waste any of it and plan on trying to go for 2 oz and 2 gallons. I dont think a mini needs 4 oz and 4 galons if I use a two bucket method. shrugs? trying to conserve!

You should see my griot's shelf. damn. i spent a chunk.
actually, i think you want to have the largest volume of soapy water in
your wash bucket to reduce the percentage of contaminants and
grit in the water.


GENERIC CALCULATION:
let's say you have 10 grit floating in your 2 gallon bucket.

I would only have 5 grit floating in my 4 gallon bucket that
i might pickup with my wash mitt as concentration to contaminants
is half of yours.

which would you like to use?
 
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