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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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bird poop stain

got a problem...

looks like a bird pooped on my car and there are a couple of 1/2" splat marks embedded in the paint now...

even tried claybar to get it out...

thinking maybe the bird ate some berries and the acid from the juice ate into the paint...

any ideas how to fix this???
 
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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Don't know about Hawaiian birds, but you could try...

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=43731

...or any of the other "bird crap" threads in this forum.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Ahh, that's just crappy.

I've been referring to the pigeons near my house as flying ****bags. Very much irate.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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I say just get rid of the source:



Or if you want to have alot of fun set one of these on your porch (LIKE ME!):




DIE TWEETY!!!

WOW, nevermind DON'T SHOOT THE BIRDS, there is a thread around here somewhere that someone explained how to get rid of the spots.

MIKEY
 
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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There was a java sparrow that slept on my rear wiper every night (not sure why) and the poop would collect on the paint until MOH washed it during their monthly service. No stain after over a year of this, though I had Zymol on it always. OTOH my red car (not a Mini) developed a permanent stain after just two days and nothing could fix it. How did the astro black get stained?
 
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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I hope it isn`t as imbedded as mine was .

had to have the bonnett re-sprayed ,the poop ate right through the paint and I am regular with cleaning/waxing , to the point of obsession.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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Pull... sight in... POW...Thud....I hate birds..

Will give that stuff a trythe other thread mentioned... Seems NAPA sells it for like $15...

http://napaonline.com/MasterPages/NO...otive+Finishes
 
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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My wife thinks I'm crazy for doing this, along with many other things, but I do a walk around my car whenever I get in. I'm on poop patrol! If I find any I whip out the quick detailer & have at it. If you don't have quick detailer use water, but do it quick. As you have found out that stuff etches the paint. As far as fixing the problem goes I'll leave that to the folks more detail oriented. Prevention is my watchword.

Edit>>> Keep some wax on there for protection.

Chuck
 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Your next step is with a polish. You can only hope it isn't etched deeply. Sorry.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Luckily, the MINI hasn't had any permanent stains but our Insight got one. We tried clay bar and all but it wouldn't come out. I think the clay bar even went down through the clear coat. Luckily, we were able to use the clear coat that comes with MINI touch up paint. It's been on there for the past few years and it's probably never going to come off. Get used to it
 
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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Just some notes on Clay:
There several types (brands) of claybar in varying degrees of abrasiveness. The more abrasive types on the market are not the ones commonly available or are used by most of us. (Those types are specifically labeled as "heavy duty" or otherwise) Using clay properly (with a shampoo or QD as a lube) will not damage the clearcoat. If a user even puts a haze or a swirl on the car while using clay he is doing something wrong. (pushing too hard, no lube, rubbing too long..it takes only 3-4 strokes) It would be very, very unlikely that the clay would remove clearcoat unless you rubbed on a single spot for a long, long time. I have never seen this happen yet.

Clay works by shearing off and sucking up 3-dimensional contaminents in the paint. 3-dimensional is the key phrase. If the clay can't "grab it" then it will not be effective.

Bird stains and water spots are rarely helped by clay unless there is residual deposit still clinging to the surface. (usually at the outside edges of the spot where it concentrates and dries) It will not have any affect on the chemical discoloration or damage within the paint/clearcoat itself.

I just didn't want anyone to become scared of using clay...it's an essential and safe detailing product.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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I agree - clay is not the product to use on a bird poop stain.

From what I've heard, bird poop is highly acidic regardless of what the birdy has eaten. Stains that result from bird poop go INTO the finish, rather than sit above it. If you really do have a stain in the finish, then polishing the edges of the stain are all you can do. Polishing the stain is kinda like feathering a patch on drywall; you're trying to de-emphasize the edge so that you can't see it. Once you can't see the cleaned/feathered "crater", be sure to fill/protect the area with wax. As with any scratch/stain/yuck, always start out mild before going abrasive.

As stated above, preventive maintainance including maintaining a good coat of wax should help prevent bird poop stains.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BradB
It would be very, very unlikely that the clay would remove clearcoat unless you rubbed on a single spot for a long, long time. I have never seen this happen yet.
That's exactly what happened. It's all good though...we got clearcoat back on and now all you see is a stain.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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How did you get clearcoat back?? The only way that's going to happen is if you got your car repainted, is that what you did???


Originally Posted by kapps
That's exactly what happened. It's all good though...we got clearcoat back on and now all you see is a stain.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 07:27 AM
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F****ng Birds and their indiscriminate pooping

I use the Klasse twins on a regular basis and even they cannot prevent a nice big bird poop stain from etching into the paint, esp. if the car's been baking in the sun. I tried and tried to get it out, with about every cleaner I have, but it seems to be well-embedded. I don't think any kind of wax, carnuba or polymer, can prevent this from happening. And on a black roof it looks especially bad...
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Ugh...I am very upset to hear this. Picked up my car last week (in the rain). Realized on Tuesday that there was poop on it from before I got it. I can't get this off - in three places. My fault for not checking it better at the dealer, but this really sucks on a car with 700 miles on it. REALLY sucks.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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I feel your pain, dude
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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had some kamokushi a few days ago and it was awesome.
kamokushi is grilled goose meat on a kabob stick with green onions.

unless the bird is edible, i think it needs to be removed from the planet.
doesnt do us any good.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
had some kamokushi a few days ago and it was awesome.
kamokushi is grilled goose meat on a kabob stick with green onions.

unless the bird is edible, i think it needs to be removed from the planet.
doesnt do us any good.
Ahh Ken, but you're wrong there! The birds eat those freakin bugs that wind up on our bonnets and bumpers! Its all in the circle of life... Maybe eliminating half of the worlds population of birds would do- they'd eat some bugs but there would be less birds.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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^^ oh really? (yah, i know... but)

man, they need to send me their resumes then.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Alright, you got me there!
 
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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just a note on this long dead thread. i had a bird issue week 1 (hadn't had time to get wax on) that drove me crazy. i tried clay, bug/tar remover, even langka step 1 and 2 (without the wet sanding) to no avail. i called heather at detailers paradise for a completely unrelated issue, but figured i'd run the bird poop scenario by her. she recommended maguires scratch-x....which i an happy to say worked!!! even after the stain had been there for over a month.

so props to heather, and you may want to try the scratch-x next time you have a bird issue. happy trails!
 
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