Hi all,

Did my first wash today--dawn, clay bar and then Epic... but strangely I don't think I put enough Epic on. I have never done any of this detailing before and saw all the posts about how to put a really really thin coat. So I tried, but with a pepper white it was super hard to tell if any went on at all and I didn't want to over do it. I let it cure and came back but didnt see so much haze on the car. anyway, I buffed everything but I'm worried I didn't actually get wax everywhere.

Guess I will do Epic again tomorrow. Do you think I can just wipe the car down with microfiber and then apply Epic rather than wash again?

I am using the skinny pads from detailers paradise to apply it. Is the best method to put a little on the pad, apply it to a small area, and then repeat? I was more putting some on then trying to spread it over a surface.

Thanks for the car washing for the non-OC thread--really helped me get a start on washing my car. Hoping to take some pics soon.

 

Epic is very hard to see on Pepper White. Unless you get it in direct light it is difficult to tell where you've applied and where you've missed. Also when wiping off, Epic doesn't dust much so that is not a help either.
So when I do a PW I always use direct light and I do two coats with 24 hours between them. Just wipe down with a MF and go at it again. Do small sections and strive for complete coverage.
The skinny blue is good for putting on Epic and putting a small dab and applying in a circular motion and then moving on to the next section is a good technique.

 

the very little hazing and very thin coat is definitely hard to do/tell on lighter
colors with Epic.

might want to just do a richer coat just for that reason. it'll just take longer
to dry.

 

Shoot me a PM, I can stop by and give you some pointers tomorrow. I live in Mar Vista which is right next to you. Are you going to Minicorsa's BBQ tomorrow? I will also be there.

As others have said, it's hard to see the wax on PW, but there are things you can do to see it better. One way is with a flashlight--just run the beam over the paint and any part that looks dull/not reflective or shiny means you've got wax on it.

Richard

 

I just did my first Epic "wax" job and I agree the pepper white makes it harder to see where you have been. I did put it on a bit thicker to make sure I was covering everything.

I used the DP square blue applicator pad. I also found it helpful to apply the Epic to the pad and then spread it around the pad with my finger before using the pad on the paint. I seemed to go on more evenly that way.

 

Meeting Octane Guy would be your best bet. But it sounds like your doing every thing right to me. Don't repeat, Don't put it on too heavy.

 

I use the DP skinny pads when applying Epic also. Like most applicators, the first few dabs of product seem to soak into the pad rather than get on the paint, seems the pads need to get loaded with product. What I do is a very light spritz of QD on the pad first, use very little, this seems to help get the product on the paint, rather than soak into the pad. This recommended with Zaino products, but I have found it works well with Epic also.

Mark

 

That is a great tip Lotsie. I do the same with all my pads for the PC. Before the first application of product just a light spritz with Slick. As with Lotsie, this is a habit leftover from my Zaino days.

 

^^^ Great minds, well at least similar ones, think alike

Mark

 

OG was nice enough to stop by and give me some tips. Of course, I had already done some of the car by that point but hopefully I covered the car well enough. The biggest problem still was that I would see swirls of Epic and could not tell if those were just places where I had applied too much, or if the other places didn't receive any. The spray of QD did help soak the pad a bit first. Next time I will work in more of a pattern. Thanks again Richard.

 

No problem! It was nice seeing your clubman! I washed and BG'd my MINI before coming over. Got a nice wave from a gal in a CR R53 just outside of your house---so that was also nice, lol. Not many wavers these days.

I think you're doing fine with your application. Just be methodical about how you apply it to avoid any holes and you'll be good to go. =)

Richard

 

Can Lotsie or someone tell me what "QD" is? See post number 7.

Thanks much. Finner.

 

im not just someone...



quick detailer (someone that quickly details...then looks at the car
and not satisified, he goes back and slowly details again).

 

QD = quick detailer

 

Thanks. QD = Hydro Right?

Learned alot on these threads about Prima products. Going to be ordering.

 

NO.


what have you learned?

QD= Slick if Prima.

 

Not enough I see.

 

well, the thread title is "Epic help."

 

and thats why i was reading it, to learn about it.

 

Some do use Hydro as a QD, though for the price Slick is a better choice. Also Slick has lifting capabilities that Hydro does not but then again Hydro provides lasting protection whereas Slick does not.
I use Slick for QD and Hydro during drying after a wash.

 

Thanks Minimaybe. Great description. Appreciated.

 

finner- dont take any offense. you're here which is a good sign that you really care about your car and want to take care of it.

most folks wouldn't even stop to think twice wat these things mean.

but then again, you'll need to be able to take some jokes.

 

Finner, welcome

If you read about how to do things here, then go easy doing it, it will all come together Then you get to bug Ken

Mark

 

I was a noob once. Now I'm the ken of Amigo. Except I'm nicer than the real ken.

 

come on now, stop teasing.