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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:25 AM
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Prima Swirl ROCKS.... a couple of proper passes with Swirl and I doubt you'll see anything left... If you do, you're gonna need to fill and/or sand (or get a pro to hit it with a rotary), because it's too deep for polish and a RO...

But not all "swirl removers" are created equal... not by a long shot.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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I'm backing Blimey on this all the way. I don't know what pads you use andrew but this is my typical Lake County (DP) progression:
Cut - Yellow pad (don't do it) If you hate your paint and want primer.
Cut - Orange pad (max abrasive) Mega swirls and scratches/oxidation
Cut - White pad (very abrasive) Heavy swirls and light scratches
Swirl - Orange pad (abrasive) Moderate swirls
Swirl - White pad (less abrasive) Typical detailing requirement
Finish - White pad (minimal abrasion) Soft paint like A-pillars or black roof
Amigo - White pad (no abrasion) Fills & cleans
Epic - Black pad
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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Great pad/polish guide, Chuck.

I'd add that I have used Swirl with Yellow - for "more abrasive" results but without needing Cut.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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I knew I forgot one, so:
Swirl - Yellow pad (more abrasive then abrasive but less so then very)
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BlimeyCabrio
I would absolutely use wax/sealant after Amigo - Amigo is NOT a protectant... just a very mild polish with some fillers that provides that mirror glazed look... but it's not providing protection. You should seal it with Epic ideally. Or at a minimum use Hydro now and after every wash...

Epic after a proper Amigo treatment looks INCREDIBLE...

Hey there! I've purchased Prima Mystic (wash), Amigo, and Epic. However, I do not know anything about Hydro. What is it exactly? I've read that several users here use it, but how is it used, and more importantly, where in the process of washing, cleaning, polishing, and waxing does it come in?
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by leicaguy
Can Amigo be used as a last step? It says it differs from most glazes as it allows for the use of a wax afterwards. But is wax necessary? What about touch up with Slick after Amigo?

I am wondering about that too. I bought Slick to use in between major detailing, but it is not clear what the other steps are.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CJP
Hey there! I've purchased Prima Mystic (wash), Amigo, and Epic. However, I do not know anything about Hydro. What is it exactly? I've read that several users here use it, but how is it used, and more importantly, where in the process of washing, cleaning, polishing, and waxing does it come in?
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I am wondering about that too. I bought Slick to use in between major detailing, but it is not clear what the other steps are.
Have covered both of these in many other threads recently:

1) Hydro is a wax-while-you-dry product. You spray a very small amount of it (just a mist) on each painted panel after the wash, before you dry, then dry with a waffle weave microfiber towel as normal. Used this way, Hydro will hide fine swirls and give the car a just-waxed shine. Hydro is a polymer-based product, so it's not designed for use over carnauba waxes. It's not as durable as Epic, but it does have Epic-like protection, and it's so easy to apply, that many of us use it after every wash. If you start with a base of Epic, the Hydro effectively "boosts" it to last indefinitely. Some folks use Hydro as their only wax - again, if you're using it every week or two when you wash, that's probably better protection that 98% of the cars driving around have on them...

2) Amigo has some polymers but offers very little "wax-type" protection. We've discussed how you could theoretically use it on top of a sealant like Epic as a filler, but it's also a cleaner and could remove some of the cured sealant underneath. Thus, Amigo is best used as a last polishing step, to give your paint that final mirror-finish, before applying a sealant like Epic. If you want something to fill fine swirls, etc. later, use Hydro. That's what it's made for.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BlimeyCabrio
Have covered both of these in many other threads recently:

1) Hydro is a wax-while-you-dry product. You spray a very small amount of it (just a mist) on each painted panel after the wash, before you dry, then dry with a waffle weave microfiber towel as normal. Used this way, Hydro will hide fine swirls and give the car a just-waxed shine. Hydro is a polymer-based product, so it's not designed for use over carnauba waxes. It's not as durable as Epic, but it does have Epic-like protection, and it's so easy to apply, that many of us use it after every wash. If you start with a base of Epic, the Hydro effectively "boosts" it to last indefinitely. Some folks use Hydro as their only wax - again, if you're using it every week or two when you wash, that's probably better protection that 98% of the cars driving around have on them...

2) Amigo has some polymers but offers very little "wax-type" protection. We've discussed how you could theoretically use it on top of a sealant like Epic as a filler, but it's also a cleaner and could remove some of the cured sealant underneath. Thus, Amigo is best used as a last polishing step, to give your paint that final mirror-finish, before applying a sealant like Epic. If you want something to fill fine swirls, etc. later, use Hydro. That's what it's made for.

Many thanks for your detailed reply!...
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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^^^ Yeah, we're kind of into detail on this forum

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